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| | [[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl fires her Walther PPK at Porter through the floor of the Triad van. Luckily for Porter, she is the worste shot in the world, and misses him at a 2ft distance with only the distance of a van to cover. ''In all fairness she may have missed because Porter's exact location was hidden by the floor of the car. -Anonymous'']] | | [[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl fires her Walther PPK at Porter through the floor of the Triad van. Luckily for Porter, she is the worste shot in the world, and misses him at a 2ft distance with only the distance of a van to cover. ''In all fairness she may have missed because Porter's exact location was hidden by the floor of the car. -Anonymous'']] |
| | [[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl holds her Walther PPK on Porter.]] | | [[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pearl holds her Walther PPK on Porter.]] |
| − | [[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun clicks empty instead of locking back like it should have on the last shot. Then again, maybe it misfired and Porter got ''really'' lucky. ''Coming to the films defense once again, I own Bersa Thunder 380, functionally almost identical to the PPK, and the slide release is extremely sensitive so it's possible the gun locked back but was released as she fumbled about the car without her being aware. -Anonymous '']] | + | [[Image:PaybackWaltherPPK-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun clicks empty instead of locking back like it should have on the last shot. Then again, maybe it misfired and Porter got ''really'' lucky. ''Coming to the films defense once again, I own a Bersa Thunder 380, functionally almost identical to the PPK, and the slide release is extremely sensitive, so it's possible the gun locked back but was released as she fumbled about the car without her being aware. -Anonymous '']] |
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Revision as of 06:51, 16 June 2009
The following guns were used in the film Payback:
Payback: The Director's Cut (1999)
Smith & Wesson Model 27
Porter (Mel Gibson) uses a blued Smith & Wesson Model 27 4" with S&W factory combat grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. It is not a Smith & Wesson Model 29 as previously mentioned, as the diameter of the muzzle and cylinder chambers is clearly too small to be .44 Magnum.
Smith & Wesson Model 27 6" - .357 Magnum.
The pawn shop owner hands Porter a Smith & Wesson Model 27 from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.
Left: Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against.
Right: Porter examines the gun like a real pro by pointing the muzzle at himself.
After doing some flashy twirling, Porter hands the shop owner the Model 27 back to make a purchase. No FFL, no handgun liscence, no waiting period, no way...
Speaking as an Oregonian, Handgun licenses and waiting periods are not always required for handgun purchases and being as no specific location was ever given in the film (it takes place in a generic big city) there is no reason to assume these restrictions are necessisary (although a background check should have been conducted) -Anonymous
Porter searches his wife's house with his Model 27 at the ready. He has a "USMC" tattoo on his shoulder, so you'd assume he'd know how to clear a room. Instead he does what is typically done in films and wanders around the house with the revolver cocked and pointed at the ceiling.
A Model 27 with regular grips is seen in Detective Hicks' (
Bill Duke) holster.
Porter holds his Model 27 on Val in the hotel room.
Porter uses a pillow to muffle the gunshot as he executes Val. This is movie fiction, as a pillow would not properly suppress a handgun, especially a revolver. It is also pointless since three rounds are fired before this.
Porter holds his Model 27 on the Detectives before handing it to them outside the "Outfit's" building.
Arthur Stegman (
David Paymer) holds a Model 27 on Porter in the back of a Taxi cab before he takes it from him.
Porter fires the Model 27 in an awkward akimbo stance along with a
Beretta 92FS at the Triads, unloading about 13 rounds from his six shot revolver. For whatever reason he chose to put the heavier recoil handgun in his non-dominant hand, a poor choice in the real world.
Porter fires the two guns through the floor of the Triad van. You can see he is simply dry-firing the gun as no muzzle flash is seen, likely a safety procaution for firing blanks at such close proximity.
A close up of the guns firing, with excellent shots of the gun's markings.
Porter rolls out from under the van and shoots the Triad driver.
Porter holds the Model 27 on Pearl (
Lucy Liu).
The gun clicks empty. That's the inconveniance of movie guns, they can fire off a ridiculous amount of ammunition but never have a bullet left when you really need it.
Internal Affiars officers show off Porter's original Model 27 to Det. Hicks (
Bill Duke) and Det. Leary (
Jack Conley) after Porter left the gun (covered with their fingerprints) at the scene of Val's murder, along with one of their badges.
Colt Python
Lynn Porter (Deborah Kara Unger) uses a stainless Colt Python to shoot Porter (Mel Gibson) in the back after she and Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) decide to take the Triad's stolen money for themselves.
Lynn shoots Porter in the back with the Colt Python. Although she blinks on the first shot, she does a good job of keeping her eyes open for the other five.
Val tries to comfort Lynn as she holds her Colt Python. Nice work following rule number three, finger off the trigger.
Beretta 92FS
Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) carries a Beretta 92FS pistol as his main sidearm, which Porter (Mel Gibson) takes from him and uses for the rest of the film.
Val surrenders his Beretta 92FS when being stripped by an employee at "The Outfit".
Val holds his Beretta 92FS on Rosie (
Maria Bello) with a horrible gangster grip.
Porter hold's Val's Beretta 92FS on Fairfax (
James Coburn) using the same horrible gangster grip. Apparently he forgot his USMC training...
Porter uses an awful stance and flinches terribly as he unloads on the Triads.
To be fair, at such a close distance with a target as large as a van a less than ideal stance and some flinching probably would not make much of a difference. -Anonymous
Porter rolls out from under the van and guns down the Triad driver.
Porter guns down two thugs in the bathroom with his Beretta 92FS.
Even though Porter had fired his Beretta 92FS multiple times during the final gunfight, the hammer is strangely down in this shot.
Porter fires his Beretta 92FS at the fleeing Outfit members. In his defense, his eyes are closed because he is dazed.
Walther PP
Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) carries a Walther PP as secondary sidearm.
Val surrenders his Walther PP to an Outfit employee.
Smith & Wesson Model 49 "Bodyguard"
Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) carries Smith & Wesson Model 49 "Bodyguard" in an ankle holster.
Smith & Wesson Model 38 - .38spl. Aluminum framed version of Model 49.
An Outfit employee removed Val's Smith & Wesson Model 49 "Bodyguard".
The employee remarks on the ankle gun.
Walther PPK
Pearl (Lucy Liu) carries a Walther PPK with pearl grips (possibly in relation with her name) as her sidearm.
Pearl fires her Walther PPK at Porter through the floor of the Triad van. Luckily for Porter, she is the worste shot in the world, and misses him at a 2ft distance with only the distance of a van to cover.
In all fairness she may have missed because Porter's exact location was hidden by the floor of the car. -Anonymous
Pearl holds her Walther PPK on Porter.
The gun clicks empty instead of locking back like it should have on the last shot. Then again, maybe it misfired and Porter got
really lucky.
Coming to the films defense once again, I own a Bersa Thunder 380, functionally almost identical to the PPK, and the slide release is extremely sensitive, so it's possible the gun locked back but was released as she fumbled about the car without her being aware. -Anonymous SIG-Sauer P220
The Triad van driver is seen firing a SIG-Sauer P220 through the floor of the van at Porter (Mel Gibson). Earlier in the film Porter is seen taking a SIG P220 from one of Carter's (William Devane) guards after knocking him out with a roll of pennies and then using it to kill him. They are noted as the P220 model by their lack of double stack bulges on the frame, and their .45-sized muzzle diameters.
SIG-Sauer P220 - .45 ACP.
Porter shoots Carter with one of his guard's SIG-Sauer P220 pistols, flinching before the gun even goes off.
The Triad van driver fires his SIG-Sauer P220 at Porter under the van, and misses him despite him being directly under him.
The Triad driver is shot by Porter. Note the lack of bulges in the frame.
One of the Outfit members at the end of the film tries to exit the car and shoot at Porter while armed with a SIG-Sauer P220. The actor playing this thug appears to be
Patrick Kilpatrick.
M3 "Grease Gun"
When Porter (Mel Gibson) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing M3 "Grease Guns". They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.
M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP.
One of the Triad gang members fires his M3 "Grease Gun" at the taxi cab.
The two Triads unload their M3 "Grease Guns".
Glock 17
One of the Triad gang members is seen using a 2nd Generation Glock 17 to shoot at Porter (Mel Gibson) in the taxi cab. Later Porter is seen disposing of two Glock 17s after killing two thugs in the restroom.
One of the Triads fires his Glock 17 at Porter in the cab. Note how the top of the barrel has been milled down for blank conversion.
Porter throws two Glock 17s into the trash bin.
Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel
Porter (Mel Gibson) tries to draw a Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel with a 3" barrel when he shot in the back by Lynn (Deborah Kara Unger).
Smith & Wesson Model 10HB - .38spl.
Porter attempts to draw his Smith & Wesson Model 10HB.
Porter falls down and drops his Model 10HB.
Heckler & Koch VP70
A Triad gang member fires a Heckler & Koch VP70 at Porter (Mel Gibson) in the taxi cab.
Heckler & Koch VP70 - 9mm.
A Triad fires his Heckler & Koch VP70.
The Triad holding his Heckler & Koch VP70. What happened to his shades?
Remington 870 Sawed-Off
Radioman (Kwame Amoaku) tries to save Arthur Stegman (David Paymer) with a Remington 870 Sawed-Off.
Smith & Wesson 669
The drug delaer carries a S&W 669 with bobbed hammer installed.
Heckler & Koch P7M13
A Carter (William Devane) bodyguard points a H&K P7M13.
Ruger Mk II
A thug in the station open his lunchbox to use a suppressed Ruger MkII.
Ruger Mk II pistol with professional Ciener Suppressor.
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