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[[Image:long riders ver1.jpg‎|thumb|right|300px|''The Long Riders'' (1980)]]
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'''''The Long Riders''''' is a 1980 Western film that dramatizes the exploits of the James-Younger Gang. Directed by [[Walter Hill]], the film is notable for the casting of 4 families of actors including the Carradines ([[David Carradine]], [[Keith Carradine]], and [[Robert Carradine]]), the Quaids ([[Randy Quaid]] and [[Dennis Quaid]]), the Keaches ([[James Keach]] and [[Stacy Keach]]), and the Guests ([[Nicholas Guest]] and [[Christopher Guest]]). Also of interest is the amount of period weapons seen in the film besides the typical Colt [[Single Action Army]].
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{{Film Title|The Long Riders}}
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=Handguns=
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== Merwin and Hulbert revolver ==
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Clell Miller ([[Randy Quaid]]) carries a [[Merwin and Hulbert]] revolver as his main handgun. This revolver was not available to the public until 1876, the same year that Clell Miller helped robb the bank in Minnesota as depicted in the movie.
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[[File:PJH77-L-F2-H.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Merwin Hulbert & Co. Large Frame Double Action Revolver - .44/40 WCF]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver22.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Clell Miller ([[Randy Quaid]]) with his Merwin & Hulbert revolver during the opening bank robbery.]]
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[[ File:TheLongRidersRevolver17.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Clell pulls his revolver on a frightened bank customer ([[Allan Graf]]) during the climatic robbery.]]
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== Remington 1875==
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Cole Younger ([[David Carradine]]) is seen with a [[Remington 1875]].
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[[Image:Rem1875.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 1875 - .45 Long Colt.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver23.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cole Younger ([[David Carradine]]) aims his Remington 1875 at Jesse James ([[James Keach]]) and Frank James ([[Stacy Keach]]).]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A bank customer takes aim at Jesse in the first robbery with his own Remington 1875.]]
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== Sharps Model 1C Pepperbox ==
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Four-barreled [[Sharps Pepperbox|Sharps Model 1C Pepperbox]] is also seen in the film held by Bella Starr ([[Pamela Reed]]).
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[[File:Sharps Model 1.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Sharps Model 1C Pepperbox - .22 caliber]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersPepperbox1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bella Starr ([[Pamela Reed]]) aims her Sharps pistol at Cole Younger ([[David Carradine]]).]]
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== Smith and Wesson Schofield ==
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Frank James ([[Stacy Keach]]) is seen with a [[Smith & Wesson Schofield]].
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[[Image:Schofield.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Schofield Model 3 with nickel finish - .45 Schofield.]]
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[[ File:TheLongRidersSchofield (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank James ([[Stacy Keach]]) with his Smith & Wesson Schofield.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersSchofield (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank pulls his revolver.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersSchofield (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank with his revolver.]]
  
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The story of the Jesse James Gang, directed by Walter Hill, and starring 3 families of actors (Carradine, Keach and Quaid). We can see more interesting guns in this movie than the typical Colt Single Action Army, including:
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== Harrington & Richardson Premier ==
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A top-break, .38 [[Harrington & Richardson Premier]] revolver is the weapon of Vernon Biggs ([[Chris Mulkey]]). Frank is seen with one as well.
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[[Image:H&R_Top_Break.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Harrington & Richardson Premier revolver]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vernon Biggs ([[Chris Mulkey]]) draws his Harrington & Richardson Premier when the James-Younger gang rob the coach.]]
  
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== [[Merwin and Hulbert]] revolver ==
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== Colt Walker ==
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[[Image:MerwinHulbertPocket.jpg‎ |thumb|400px|none|Merwin, Hulbert SA First Model Frontier
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Jim Younger ([[Keith Carradine]]) is seen with what appears to be a .44 caliber [[Colt Walker]] revolver when they rob the coach. Despite the presence of a loading lever latch, this is a Walker and not a Dragoon or '51 Navy. (See Discussion page for detailed argument.)
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Army .44MH caliber with early "humpback" hammer and shortened barrel.]]
 
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[[Image:Forajidos1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Merwin & Hulbert revolver]]
 
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[[Image:Forajidos9.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Merwin & Hulbert revolver]]
 
  
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[[Image:1847ColtWalker.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Walker - .44 caliber.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jim Younger ([[Keith Carradine]]) aims his Colt Walker at Vernon when they rob the coach.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Younger ([[Keith Carradine]]) on the left with his Colt Walker.]]
  
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== [[Remington 1875]]==
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== Movie prop Colt Police Positive ==
  
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[[Image:Forajidos10.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
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A Colt revolver is seen held by Ed Miller ([[Dennis Quaid]]) during the bank robbery. It is also seen used by Bob Younger (Robert Carradine). This double-action, modern revolver (it looks like a Colt 1917) has been modified to look like a Colt [[Single Action Army]], installing a fake extractor rod housing on the right side of the barrel. This kind of props were frequently used in the 50's Western movies (see the Police Positive below), when an actor wasn't able to use a [[Single Action Army]] with the speed required by the script. It is somewhat surprising to find one in this movie, which uses such a variety of antique handguns. Another possibility is that it was a representation of a [[Colt 1878 Double Action]] Revolver.
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[[Image:Hollywood.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Police Positive, modified to look like a Colt SAA]]
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[[Image:ColtModel1917.jpg‎|thumb|300px|none|Unmodified Colt M1917 Revolver - .45 ACP.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ed Miller ([[Dennis Quaid]]) aims his revolver at the civilians. Note the fake extractor.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Ed sticks his revolver in the store clerk's face.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bob Younger ([[Robert Carradine]]) with his two Colts. Jim Younger (Keith Carradine) on the left has a Colt Walker.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Younger with the revolver.]]
  
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== [[Sharps Pistol]] ==
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==Single Action Army==
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Four-barreled, pocket pistol
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Various models of the Colt [[Single Action Army]] are used by several characters in the film.
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[[File:ColtSAALongBarrel.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jesse James with what appears to be a Single Action Army cavalry model 7.5" barrel.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A mid-action shot of a SAA cavalry model wielded by one of the bank customers.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersDualSAA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jesse dual-wielding SAA CA model.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two deputies aim their SAA cavalry model.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sam Starr aims his SAA (with a 5.5" barrel) at Cole Younger.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRevolver9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|On the left, Charlie Ford ([[Christopher Guest]]) draws what is most likely a Colt 1851 Navy and Bob Ford ([[Nicholas Guest]]) on the right pulls a Single Action Army revolver.]]
  
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[[Image:Forajidos8.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
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=Rifles=
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==Winchester Model 1873 ==
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The [[Winchester Model 1873]] is used by several of the outlaws in the film. 
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[[Image:Winchester1873.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1873 - .44-40.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRifle1.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersWinchester (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px]] 
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[[File:TheLongRidersWinchester (3).jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
  
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== [[Smith and Wesson Schofield]] ==
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==Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle==
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A [[Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle]] is also a prominent rifle used in the film, notably by Bob Younger ([[Robert Carradine]]).
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[[Image:Winchester 1866 rifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle - .44 Rimfire.]]
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[[File:TLR 307.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A [[Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle]] is carried during a funeral.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersShotgun6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cole and Jim standing guard with the latter carrying a "Yellow Boy".]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersYellowBoy (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle]] is used by Bob Younger ([[Robert Carradine]]).]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersYellowBoy (1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bob fires the rifle.]]
  
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[[Image:Forajidos5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
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==Winchester 1892?==
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The [[Winchester Model 1892]] also is used.
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[[Image:Winchester1892Carbine.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Winchester 1892 - .38-40]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRifle2.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersWinchester (4).jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersWinchester (2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
  
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Frank James uses a stainless steel Winchester 1892 that has been modified to look like a [[Henry 1860|Henry Rifle]].
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[[Image:Henry.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Henry 1860 brass-frame - .44 Rimfire (RF).]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRepeater(1).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note the lack of a wooden grip on the barrel and the latch which are normally found on a Henry rifle. The wooden grip was removed and a latch was attached on the weapon in order to simulate a Henry Rifle.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRepeater(2).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank inserting a round into the weapon. The loading gate was invented by Winchester employeé Nelson King and did not feature on the old henry rifle.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRepeater(3).jpg|thumb|none|600px|The open action also reflects a 1892. The barrel is also round as opposed to the octagon barrel fitted on every Henry rifle made.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersRepeater(4).jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank's Henry/Winchester hybrid rifle from a different angle.]]
  
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== 12 Gauge Harrington & Richardson Topper Single Shot Shotgun ==
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Both Cole Younger ([[David Carradine]]) and John Younger ([[Kevin Brophy]]) carry [[12 Gauge Single Shot Shotgun]]s .
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[[Image:H&R Topper Shotgun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Harrington & Richardson Topper Shotgun - 12 gauge. This is a common single barreled breach loading top break shotgun.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersShotgun6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cole and Jim standing guard.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersShotgun2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cole cleaning his shotgun.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersShotgun9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shotgun is seen used by Cole.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersShotgun3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cole holds the shotgun during a confrontation.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersShotgun5.jpg|thumb|none|601px|"Pinkertons!" John Younger ([[Kevin Brophy]]) holds the shotgun.  Note that the barrel is shorter than a regular Harrington & Richardson compared to the gun carried by Cole Younger.]]
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[[File:TLR 305.jpg|thumb|none|600px|John Younger ([[Kevin Brophy]]) holds the shotgun on one of the Pinkertons.]]
  
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==Colt 1878 Double Barreled Shotgun (Sawed Off)==
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[[Image:Colt1stDragoon-44Cal.jpg‎|thumb|none|300px|Colt Dragoon 1st Model - .44 Cal]]
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A [[Colt 1878]] double barreled shotgun with the barrel sawed down to short length is carried by guard riding shotgun on the wagon.
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[[Image:Forajidos7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]]
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[[Image:Colt1878.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt 1878 - 12 gauge.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersShotgun4.jpg|thumb|none|600px]]
  
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== Movie prop ==
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==12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun ==
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At least one citizen is seen blasting away with what appears to be a [[12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun]] at the robbers during the "Great Northfield Minnesota Raid".
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[[Image:CharlesParker1878Shotgun.jpg‎|thumb|none|450px|Charles Parker 1878 Side by Side Shotgun - 12 gauge.]]
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[[File:TheLongRidersShotgun1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|At least one of the town's citizens is seen blasting away with his shotgun at the robbers during the "Great Northfield Minnesota Raid".]]
  
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This double-action, modern revolver (it looks like a Colt 1917) has been modified to look like a Colt Single Action Army, installing a fake extractor rod housing on the right side of the barrel. This kind of props were frequently used in the 50's Western movies (see the Police Positive below), when an actor wasn't able to use a single action army with the speed required by the script. It is somewhat surprising to find one in this movie, which uses such a variey of antique handguns.
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[[Image:Hollywood.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Colt Police Positive, modified to look like a Colt SAA]]
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[[Image:Forajidos3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ed Miller ([[Dennis Quaid]]) fires a shot into the air.]]
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[[Image:Forajidos2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ed holds his revolver on the bank manager]]
 
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[[Image:Forajidos4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Ed sticks his revolver in the store clerks face.]]
 

Revision as of 07:03, 29 July 2019

The Long Riders (1980)

The Long Riders is a 1980 Western film that dramatizes the exploits of the James-Younger Gang. Directed by Walter Hill, the film is notable for the casting of 4 families of actors including the Carradines (David Carradine, Keith Carradine, and Robert Carradine), the Quaids (Randy Quaid and Dennis Quaid), the Keaches (James Keach and Stacy Keach), and the Guests (Nicholas Guest and Christopher Guest). Also of interest is the amount of period weapons seen in the film besides the typical Colt Single Action Army.


The following weapons were used in the film The Long Riders:


Handguns

Merwin and Hulbert revolver

Clell Miller (Randy Quaid) carries a Merwin and Hulbert revolver as his main handgun. This revolver was not available to the public until 1876, the same year that Clell Miller helped robb the bank in Minnesota as depicted in the movie.

Merwin Hulbert & Co. Large Frame Double Action Revolver - .44/40 WCF
Clell Miller (Randy Quaid) with his Merwin & Hulbert revolver during the opening bank robbery.
Clell pulls his revolver on a frightened bank customer (Allan Graf) during the climatic robbery.

Remington 1875

Cole Younger (David Carradine) is seen with a Remington 1875.

Remington 1875 - .45 Long Colt.
Cole Younger (David Carradine) aims his Remington 1875 at Jesse James (James Keach) and Frank James (Stacy Keach).
A bank customer takes aim at Jesse in the first robbery with his own Remington 1875.

Sharps Model 1C Pepperbox

Four-barreled Sharps Model 1C Pepperbox is also seen in the film held by Bella Starr (Pamela Reed).

Sharps Model 1C Pepperbox - .22 caliber
Bella Starr (Pamela Reed) aims her Sharps pistol at Cole Younger (David Carradine).

Smith and Wesson Schofield

Frank James (Stacy Keach) is seen with a Smith & Wesson Schofield.

Smith & Wesson Schofield Model 3 with nickel finish - .45 Schofield.
Frank James (Stacy Keach) with his Smith & Wesson Schofield.
Frank pulls his revolver.
Frank with his revolver.

Harrington & Richardson Premier

A top-break, .38 Harrington & Richardson Premier revolver is the weapon of Vernon Biggs (Chris Mulkey). Frank is seen with one as well.

Harrington & Richardson Premier revolver
Vernon Biggs (Chris Mulkey) draws his Harrington & Richardson Premier when the James-Younger gang rob the coach.

Colt Walker

Jim Younger (Keith Carradine) is seen with what appears to be a .44 caliber Colt Walker revolver when they rob the coach. Despite the presence of a loading lever latch, this is a Walker and not a Dragoon or '51 Navy. (See Discussion page for detailed argument.)

Colt Walker - .44 caliber.
Jim Younger (Keith Carradine) aims his Colt Walker at Vernon when they rob the coach.
Younger (Keith Carradine) on the left with his Colt Walker.

Movie prop Colt Police Positive

A Colt revolver is seen held by Ed Miller (Dennis Quaid) during the bank robbery. It is also seen used by Bob Younger (Robert Carradine). This double-action, modern revolver (it looks like a Colt 1917) has been modified to look like a Colt Single Action Army, installing a fake extractor rod housing on the right side of the barrel. This kind of props were frequently used in the 50's Western movies (see the Police Positive below), when an actor wasn't able to use a Single Action Army with the speed required by the script. It is somewhat surprising to find one in this movie, which uses such a variety of antique handguns. Another possibility is that it was a representation of a Colt 1878 Double Action Revolver.

Colt Police Positive, modified to look like a Colt SAA
Unmodified Colt M1917 Revolver - .45 ACP.
Ed Miller (Dennis Quaid) aims his revolver at the civilians. Note the fake extractor.
Ed sticks his revolver in the store clerk's face.
Bob Younger (Robert Carradine) with his two Colts. Jim Younger (Keith Carradine) on the left has a Colt Walker.
Younger with the revolver.

Single Action Army

Various models of the Colt Single Action Army are used by several characters in the film.

Colt Single Action Army w/ 7.5" barrel known as the "Cavalry" model.
Jesse James with what appears to be a Single Action Army cavalry model 7.5" barrel.
A mid-action shot of a SAA cavalry model wielded by one of the bank customers.
Jesse dual-wielding SAA CA model.
Two deputies aim their SAA cavalry model.
Sam Starr aims his SAA (with a 5.5" barrel) at Cole Younger.
On the left, Charlie Ford (Christopher Guest) draws what is most likely a Colt 1851 Navy and Bob Ford (Nicholas Guest) on the right pulls a Single Action Army revolver.

Rifles

Winchester Model 1873

The Winchester Model 1873 is used by several of the outlaws in the film.

Winchester 1873 - .44-40.
TheLongRidersRifle1.jpg
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Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle

A Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle is also a prominent rifle used in the film, notably by Bob Younger (Robert Carradine).

Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle - .44 Rimfire.
A Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle is carried during a funeral.
Cole and Jim standing guard with the latter carrying a "Yellow Boy".
The Winchester 1866 "Yellow Boy" Rifle is used by Bob Younger (Robert Carradine).
Bob fires the rifle.

Winchester 1892?

The Winchester Model 1892 also is used.

Winchester 1892 - .38-40
TheLongRidersRifle2.jpg
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TheLongRidersWinchester (2).jpg

Frank James uses a stainless steel Winchester 1892 that has been modified to look like a Henry Rifle.

Henry 1860 brass-frame - .44 Rimfire (RF).
Note the lack of a wooden grip on the barrel and the latch which are normally found on a Henry rifle. The wooden grip was removed and a latch was attached on the weapon in order to simulate a Henry Rifle.
Frank inserting a round into the weapon. The loading gate was invented by Winchester employeé Nelson King and did not feature on the old henry rifle.
The open action also reflects a 1892. The barrel is also round as opposed to the octagon barrel fitted on every Henry rifle made.
Frank's Henry/Winchester hybrid rifle from a different angle.

Shotguns

12 Gauge Harrington & Richardson Topper Single Shot Shotgun

Both Cole Younger (David Carradine) and John Younger (Kevin Brophy) carry 12 Gauge Single Shot Shotguns .

Harrington & Richardson Topper Shotgun - 12 gauge. This is a common single barreled breach loading top break shotgun.
Cole and Jim standing guard.
Cole cleaning his shotgun.
The shotgun is seen used by Cole.
Cole holds the shotgun during a confrontation.
"Pinkertons!" John Younger (Kevin Brophy) holds the shotgun. Note that the barrel is shorter than a regular Harrington & Richardson compared to the gun carried by Cole Younger.
John Younger (Kevin Brophy) holds the shotgun on one of the Pinkertons.

Colt 1878 Double Barreled Shotgun (Sawed Off)

A Colt 1878 double barreled shotgun with the barrel sawed down to short length is carried by guard riding shotgun on the wagon.

Colt 1878 - 12 gauge.
TheLongRidersShotgun4.jpg

12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun

At least one citizen is seen blasting away with what appears to be a 12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun at the robbers during the "Great Northfield Minnesota Raid".

Charles Parker 1878 Side by Side Shotgun - 12 gauge.
At least one of the town's citizens is seen blasting away with his shotgun at the robbers during the "Great Northfield Minnesota Raid".
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