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After Hitler ([[Bruno Ganz]]) commits suicide, a [[Walther Model 8]] pistol is seen lying on his coffee table. This is historically accurate according to Hitler's personal valet Heinz Linge, and his adjutant Otto Gunsche, who testified that upon Hitler's suicide they discovered him with two pistols: a 6.35 mm Walther Model 8, which Linge claimed Hitler often carried in a concealed pocket, and a 7.65mm [[Walther PP]] or [[Walther PPK|PPK]] pistol. Gunsche unloaded the weapons and noted that the PP or PPK (he couldn't recall the exact model) had been fired, while the Model 8 had not. | After Hitler ([[Bruno Ganz]]) commits suicide, a [[Walther Model 8]] pistol is seen lying on his coffee table. This is historically accurate according to Hitler's personal valet Heinz Linge, and his adjutant Otto Gunsche, who testified that upon Hitler's suicide they discovered him with two pistols: a 6.35 mm Walther Model 8, which Linge claimed Hitler often carried in a concealed pocket, and a 7.65mm [[Walther PP]] or [[Walther PPK|PPK]] pistol. Gunsche unloaded the weapons and noted that the PP or PPK (he couldn't recall the exact model) had been fired, while the Model 8 had not. | ||
[[File:Walther-Model-8.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther Model 8 - 6.35mm (.25 ACP)]] | [[File:Walther-Model-8.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther Model 8 - 6.35mm (.25 ACP)]] | ||
− | [[Image:DownFallModel8.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Hitler's Walther Model 8 pistol - 6.35mm.]] | + | [[Image:DownFallModel8.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Hitler's Walther Model 8 pistol - 6.35mm.]] |
== Walther P38 == | == Walther P38 == | ||
− | Most of the Wehrmacht, Waffen-SS, and Hitler Youth soldiers are seen with a [[Walther P38]] pistol as their sidearm. SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche ([[Götz Otto]]) carries a Walther P38 | + | Most of the Wehrmacht, Waffen-SS, and Hitler Youth soldiers are seen with a [[Walther P38]] pistol as their sidearm. SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche ([[Götz Otto]]) also carries a Walther P38. Joseph Goebbels ([[Ulrich Matthes]]) also uses a P38 to commit suicide with his wife, Magda ([[Corinna Harfouch]]). |
− | [[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|World War Two era P38 Pistol - 9x19mm]] | + | [[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|World War Two era P38 Pistol - 9x19mm]] |
− | [[Image:DownFallP382.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Hitler Youth soldier Inge (Yelena Zelenskaya) hands a P38 to a fellow Hitler Youth soldier to kill her with rather than be captured by the Red Army.]] | + | [[Image:DownFallP382.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Hitler Youth soldier Inge (Yelena Zelenskaya) hands a P38 to a fellow Hitler Youth soldier to kill her with rather than be captured by the Red Army.]] |
− | [[Image:Downfall WaltherP38 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche ([[Götz Otto]], left) prepares for the Red Army with his [[Walther P38]] pistol, while SS-Brigadeführer Wilhelm Mohnke (André Hennicke) aims his [[Luger P08]].]] | + | [[Image:Downfall WaltherP38 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche ([[Götz Otto]], left) prepares for the Red Army with his [[Walther P38]] pistol, while SS-Brigadeführer Wilhelm Mohnke (André Hennicke) aims his [[Luger P08]].]] |
− | [[Image:DownFallP38.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Joseph Goebbels ([[Ulrich Matthes]]) stands with his Walther P38 as he and his wife prepare to commit suicide.]] | + | [[Image:DownFallP38.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Joseph Goebbels ([[Ulrich Matthes]]) stands with his Walther P38 as he and his wife prepare to commit suicide.]] |
== Luger P08 == | == Luger P08 == | ||
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== MP40 == | == MP40 == | ||
− | Several members of the Waffen SS are seen armed with [[MP40]] submachine guns, most notably when preparing to cremate the Goebbels remains. General der Artillerie Helmuth Weidling's adjutant also carries an MP40, which he turns in before entering the bunker. | + | Several members of the Waffen SS are seen armed with [[MP40]] submachine guns, most notably when preparing to cremate the Goebbels remains. SS officer Peter Högl uses an MP40 to execute Hermann Fegelein. General der Artillerie Helmuth Weidling's adjutant also carries an MP40, which he turns in before entering the bunker. |
[[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]] | [[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallMP40.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Guards armed with MP40 submachine guns at an entrance to the bunker.]] | [[Image:DownFallMP40.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Guards armed with MP40 submachine guns at an entrance to the bunker.]] | ||
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== PPSh-41 == | == PPSh-41 == | ||
− | The [[PPSh-41]] submachine gun is seen throughout the movie | + | The [[PPSh-41]] submachine gun is seen throughout the movie. Massive amounts are seen at the end of the movie used by Soviet soldiers, when the Red Army arrives to inspect the surrendered German forces. Normally, the PPSh-41 was not issued in such quantity, but the Red Army, upon entering Berlin, had issued nearly every soldier with a PPSh-41 in anticipation of the street fighting that ensued. So this abundance of PPSh-41s is in fact, historically correct. |
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A PPSh-41 submachine gun.]] | [[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A PPSh-41 submachine gun.]] | ||
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== Karabiner 98k == | == Karabiner 98k == | ||
− | The standard battle weapon of the German Army during WW2, the [[Karabiner 98k]] can be seen throughout the film. Many are seen during an interior scene where weapons are being handed out (though the vast majority of weapons in the scene are StG-44 assault rifles). At the end of the film, surrendering German soldiers can be seen smashing their | + | The standard battle weapon of the German Army during WW2, the [[Karabiner 98k]] can be seen throughout the film. Many are seen during an interior scene where weapons are being handed out (though the vast majority of weapons in the scene are StG-44 assault rifles). At the end of the film, surrendering German soldiers can be seen smashing their Karabiner 98k rifles prior to the arrival of the Red Army. |
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]] | [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallKarabiner98k5.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A sentry at Hitler's Wolf's Lair armed with Karabiner 98k rifle in 1942.]] | [[Image:DownFallKarabiner98k5.JPG|thumb|none|600px|A sentry at Hitler's Wolf's Lair armed with Karabiner 98k rifle in 1942.]] | ||
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== Sturmgewehr 44 == | == Sturmgewehr 44 == | ||
Arguably the most [[Sturmgewehr 44]]s ever seen in one movie. The StG-44 is more seen than all other German weapons. As confirmed by a WW2 historian, the German army held back issuing their StG-44s to elite units, but towards the end of the war, starting handing them out in large numbers, figuring that they were running out of troops to arm. | Arguably the most [[Sturmgewehr 44]]s ever seen in one movie. The StG-44 is more seen than all other German weapons. As confirmed by a WW2 historian, the German army held back issuing their StG-44s to elite units, but towards the end of the war, starting handing them out in large numbers, figuring that they were running out of troops to arm. | ||
− | [[Image:Sturmgewehr 44.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sturmgewehr 44 - 7. | + | [[Image:Sturmgewehr 44.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sturmgewehr 44 - 7.92x33mm Kurz]] |
[[Image:Downfall MP44a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lots of Waffen SS line up with StG-44s and one MP-40. Note how the one in the middle appears to be equipped with a 20 round magazine.]] | [[Image:Downfall MP44a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lots of Waffen SS line up with StG-44s and one MP-40. Note how the one in the middle appears to be equipped with a 20 round magazine.]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall STF-44 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Waffen SS fights with StG-44 in the streets of Berlin.]] | [[Image:Downfall STF-44 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Waffen SS fights with StG-44 in the streets of Berlin.]] | ||
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== Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine == | == Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine == | ||
− | + | Lots of [[Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine]]s are seen in the hands of Red Army soldiers. Oddly, the standard Red Army infantry rifle, the full sized Mosin Nagant M91/30, is rarely seen (the M38 Carbine was normally issued to truck drivers and secondary members of crew served weapons); as in the case of the PPSh-41, M38 carbines were issued in anticipation of the heavy street fighting, so the mix of PPSh-41s and M38s is historically correct. | |
− | [[Image:M38Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Army M38 Carbine - 7. | + | [[Image:M38Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Army M38 Carbine - 7.62x54mm R]] |
[[Image:Downfall Russians M38.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers with M38 Carbines & PPSh-41 submachine guns.]] | [[Image:Downfall Russians M38.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers with M38 Carbines & PPSh-41 submachine guns.]] | ||
− | [[Image:Downfall Russians.jpg |thumb|none|600px|A Red Army soldier stands with his M38 Carbine | + | [[Image:Downfall Russians.jpg |thumb|none|600px|A Red Army soldier stands with his M38 Carbine.]] |
[[Image:DownFallM44.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers seen with their M38 Carbines.]] | [[Image:DownFallM44.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers seen with their M38 Carbines.]] | ||
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== Visually Modified PK Machine Gun == | == Visually Modified PK Machine Gun == | ||
− | German soldiers are seen laying down suppressing fire with | + | During the Red Army’s assault on the city, German soldiers are seen laying down suppressing fire with [[PK Machine Gun]]s visually modified to resemble the [[MG34]]. |
[[Image:PKasMG34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A comparison between a mocked up PK and a real MG34.]] | [[Image:PKasMG34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A comparison between a mocked up PK and a real MG34.]] | ||
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== Panzerfaust == | == Panzerfaust == | ||
− | Hitler Youth | + | German soldiers and Volkssturm militia (including Hitler Youth child soldiers) are seen armed with [[Panzerfaust]] to defend Berlin against Red Army tanks. Hitler Youth child soldier Peter Kranz ([[Donevan Gunia]]) is seen with one. |
[[Image:Panzerfaust.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerfaust 44mm with 149mm projectile]] | [[Image:Panzerfaust.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Panzerfaust 44mm with 149mm projectile]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall Panzerfaustaa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hitlerjugend Peter Kranz awaits the Red Army with his [[Panzerfaust]].]] | [[Image:Downfall Panzerfaustaa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Hitlerjugend Peter Kranz awaits the Red Army with his [[Panzerfaust]].]] | ||
− | [[Image:DownFallPanzerfaust.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Volkssturm troops | + | [[Image:DownFallPanzerfaust.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Volkssturm troops armed with Panzerfausts.]] |
== Model 24 Stielhandgranate == | == Model 24 Stielhandgranate == | ||
− | [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]]s can be seen being passed out to Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS soldiers as they prepare | + | [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]]s can be seen being passed out to Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS soldiers as they prepare to defend the Reichstag. |
[[Image:M24handgrenade.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Antipersonnel fragmentation M24 hand grenade.]] | [[Image:M24handgrenade.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Antipersonnel fragmentation M24 hand grenade.]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallM24.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Soldiers seen with M24 hand grenades.]] | [[Image:DownFallM24.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Soldiers seen with M24 hand grenades.]] | ||
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[[Image:M39 Eihandgranate.JPG|thumb|none|250px|Model 39 Eihandgranate High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]] | [[Image:M39 Eihandgranate.JPG|thumb|none|250px|Model 39 Eihandgranate High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallM39.JPG|thumb|none|600px|SS-Reichsarzt Ernst-Robert Grawitz prepares two Model 39 Eihandgranates.]] | [[Image:DownFallM39.JPG|thumb|none|600px|SS-Reichsarzt Ernst-Robert Grawitz prepares two Model 39 Eihandgranates.]] | ||
− | [[Image:DownFallM392.JPG|thumb|none|600px| | + | [[Image:DownFallM392.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Grawitz ready to set off his Model 39 Eihandgranates.]] |
= Heavy Weapons = | = Heavy Weapons = | ||
==3.7 cm Pak 35/36== | ==3.7 cm Pak 35/36== | ||
− | + | An abandoned [[3.7 cm Pak 35/36]] can be seen in the streets of Berlin. | |
[[Image:Pak36 helsinki 1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|3.7 cm Pak 35/36 anti-tank gun - 37×249 mm R]] | [[Image:Pak36 helsinki 1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|3.7 cm Pak 35/36 anti-tank gun - 37×249 mm R]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall 3,7cm Pak36.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The 3.7 cm Pak 35/36 in the streets of Berlin.]] | [[Image:Downfall 3,7cm Pak36.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The 3.7 cm Pak 35/36 in the streets of Berlin.]] |
Revision as of 06:18, 18 March 2019
Downfall (German language/International title: Der Untergang) is a 2004 historical war drama chronicling the last ten days of Adolf Hitler's life during the Battle of Berlin. Directed by Oliver Hirschbiegel, the film is based on numerous primary and secondary accounts of the final days of Adolf Hitler, set in and around Hitler's Fuhrerbunker. The film stars Bruno Ganz as Adolf Hitler. Filming took place in Berlin, Munich, and Saint Petersburg.
The following firearms were used in Downfall:
Note: Spoilers are present in some image descriptions
Pistols
Walther PP
General der Artillerie Helmuth Weidling (Michael Mendl) and SS-Oberscharführer Rochus Misch (Heinrich Schmieder) carry Walther PP pistols as their sidearm. Weilding's pistol is seen briefly when he turns it over before entering the bunker. Misch is seen gazing at his Walther PP pistol while manning the radio.
Walther PPK
Adolf Hitler's (Bruno Ganz) Walther PPK is seen lying on the floor of his study after he commits suicide. General der Infanterie Wilhelm Burgdorf (Justus von Dohnányi) carries a PPK as do other officers, and Nazi diplomats such as Walther Hewel.
Walther Model 8
After Hitler (Bruno Ganz) commits suicide, a Walther Model 8 pistol is seen lying on his coffee table. This is historically accurate according to Hitler's personal valet Heinz Linge, and his adjutant Otto Gunsche, who testified that upon Hitler's suicide they discovered him with two pistols: a 6.35 mm Walther Model 8, which Linge claimed Hitler often carried in a concealed pocket, and a 7.65mm Walther PP or PPK pistol. Gunsche unloaded the weapons and noted that the PP or PPK (he couldn't recall the exact model) had been fired, while the Model 8 had not.
Walther P38
Most of the Wehrmacht, Waffen-SS, and Hitler Youth soldiers are seen with a Walther P38 pistol as their sidearm. SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche (Götz Otto) also carries a Walther P38. Joseph Goebbels (Ulrich Matthes) also uses a P38 to commit suicide with his wife, Magda (Corinna Harfouch).
Luger P08
SS-Brigadeführer Wilhelm Mohnke (André Hennicke) carries a Luger P08 pistol as his sidearm. He is seen with it when the last remaining German officers prepare for the Red Army.
Submachine Guns
MP38
The MP38 submachine gun is seen in use by Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS troops. SS-Standartenführer Ernst-Günther Schenck's adjutant Max Müller (Mikhail Tryasorukov) carries one as well.
MP40
Several members of the Waffen SS are seen armed with MP40 submachine guns, most notably when preparing to cremate the Goebbels remains. SS officer Peter Högl uses an MP40 to execute Hermann Fegelein. General der Artillerie Helmuth Weidling's adjutant also carries an MP40, which he turns in before entering the bunker.
PPSh-41
The PPSh-41 submachine gun is seen throughout the movie. Massive amounts are seen at the end of the movie used by Soviet soldiers, when the Red Army arrives to inspect the surrendered German forces. Normally, the PPSh-41 was not issued in such quantity, but the Red Army, upon entering Berlin, had issued nearly every soldier with a PPSh-41 in anticipation of the street fighting that ensued. So this abundance of PPSh-41s is in fact, historically correct.
Rifles
Karabiner 98k
The standard battle weapon of the German Army during WW2, the Karabiner 98k can be seen throughout the film. Many are seen during an interior scene where weapons are being handed out (though the vast majority of weapons in the scene are StG-44 assault rifles). At the end of the film, surrendering German soldiers can be seen smashing their Karabiner 98k rifles prior to the arrival of the Red Army.
Karabiner 98AZ
At least one of the soldiers above the Führerbunker is armed with a Karabiner 98AZ. It can be identified by the short barrel and the metal hook under the front barrel band which was used to facilitate stacking the rifles in a pyramid.
Sturmgewehr 44
Arguably the most Sturmgewehr 44s ever seen in one movie. The StG-44 is more seen than all other German weapons. As confirmed by a WW2 historian, the German army held back issuing their StG-44s to elite units, but towards the end of the war, starting handing them out in large numbers, figuring that they were running out of troops to arm.
Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine
Lots of Mosin Nagant M38 Carbines are seen in the hands of Red Army soldiers. Oddly, the standard Red Army infantry rifle, the full sized Mosin Nagant M91/30, is rarely seen (the M38 Carbine was normally issued to truck drivers and secondary members of crew served weapons); as in the case of the PPSh-41, M38 carbines were issued in anticipation of the heavy street fighting, so the mix of PPSh-41s and M38s is historically correct.
Machine Guns
Visually Modified PK Machine Gun
During the Red Army’s assault on the city, German soldiers are seen laying down suppressing fire with PK Machine Guns visually modified to resemble the MG34.
Degtyarev DP-28
Only seen for a few seconds on screen, a Degtyarev DP light machine gun is seen being fired by German soldiers.
Miscellaneous Weaponry
Panzerfaust
German soldiers and Volkssturm militia (including Hitler Youth child soldiers) are seen armed with Panzerfaust to defend Berlin against Red Army tanks. Hitler Youth child soldier Peter Kranz (Donevan Gunia) is seen with one.
Model 24 Stielhandgranate
Model 24 Stielhandgranates can be seen being passed out to Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS soldiers as they prepare to defend the Reichstag.
Model 39 Eihandgranate
SS-Reichsarzt Ernst-Robert Grawitz (Christian Hoening) uses two Model 39 Eihandgranates to commit suicide.
Heavy Weapons
3.7 cm Pak 35/36
An abandoned 3.7 cm Pak 35/36 can be seen in the streets of Berlin.
85mm Air Defense Gun M1939 (52-K)
A 85mm Air Defense Gun M1939 (52-K) is used by Hitler Youth members in the streets of Berlin.