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:: But PDWs can include AKS-74Us which are definitely rifles. To me PDW has always meant beefed-up SMG or cut-down AR. And the fundamental aspect for classifying a gun has always been its ammunition, and this cartridge is closer to rifle than pistol. I don't mind having a separate label for PDWs, but this gun's page in particular has been given the SMG label and gets lumped in SMG sections of movide pages.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 13:04, 19 August 2012 (CDT) | :: But PDWs can include AKS-74Us which are definitely rifles. To me PDW has always meant beefed-up SMG or cut-down AR. And the fundamental aspect for classifying a gun has always been its ammunition, and this cartridge is closer to rifle than pistol. I don't mind having a separate label for PDWs, but this gun's page in particular has been given the SMG label and gets lumped in SMG sections of movide pages.[[User:Temp89|Temp89]] 13:04, 19 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
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| + | The AK-74U is basically a 74 with a shorter barrel. It is still a RIFLE caliber. A PDW uses a sort of hybrid of a rifle caliber but shrunken to a pistol form. An SMG uses pistol caliber ammo. This gun is something else because it fires an even small bullet than today's standard intermediate cartridge. A PDW is not a cut down AR, a cut down AR is still an AR because it still fires AR rounds. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 22:16, 19 August 2012 (CDT) | ||
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Revision as of 03:16, 20 August 2012
Is this really classed as a submachine gun? http://www.knightarmco.com/images/pdw_last_18.jpg Temp89 13:04, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
Technically it's a PDW which is under a submachine gun Excalibur01 11:32, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
But realistically it's a compact carbine, like the G36C and HK53. Spartan198 11:54, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
- Oh, this debate again, after I made a case for maintaining the separation of the PDW and SMG categories on the forums. In any case, "mainstay" PDWs like the MP7 and the FN P90 can be considered SMGs partly because the "fires pistol ammunition" part of the SMG's definition is fulfilled by the Five-seveN and the HK UCP. The KAC PDW's cartridge, however, is too long to fit into a service pistol (like the .30 Carbine was) and is thus strictly a carbine round, muddying its classification further. --Mazryonh 12:42, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
- But PDWs can include AKS-74Us which are definitely rifles. To me PDW has always meant beefed-up SMG or cut-down AR. And the fundamental aspect for classifying a gun has always been its ammunition, and this cartridge is closer to rifle than pistol. I don't mind having a separate label for PDWs, but this gun's page in particular has been given the SMG label and gets lumped in SMG sections of movide pages.Temp89 13:04, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
The AK-74U is basically a 74 with a shorter barrel. It is still a RIFLE caliber. A PDW uses a sort of hybrid of a rifle caliber but shrunken to a pistol form. An SMG uses pistol caliber ammo. This gun is something else because it fires an even small bullet than today's standard intermediate cartridge. A PDW is not a cut down AR, a cut down AR is still an AR because it still fires AR rounds. Excalibur01 22:16, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
Redirect needed?
If someone enters "KAC PDW" into the search form, I hope they get taken to this page. It works that way for wikipedia for that weapon's page there. --Mazryonh 12:28, 19 August 2012 (CDT)
- It's already created. --Funkychinaman 12:40, 19 August 2012 (CDT)