Talk:Big Jake

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This page was screaming for a remodel. I kept most of the original screencaps and incorporated them. I also kept all the info about Stembridge Gun Rental. I'm going to be creating pages for the various actos in this movie that don't yet have one. Mainly Christopher Mitchum and Dean Smith. I did create a page for Richard Boone. --Jcordell 00:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay Christopher Mitchum and Dean Smith now have pages as well.--Jcordell 11:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

It amazes me the amount of information on movie rentals from records and invoices of movie rental companies that is available on this site. Kudos on the time and effort that takes, as well as contacting prop people from the studios. Big Jake is one of my favorite John Wayne westerns, and one of maybe three of his that I can think of off the top of my head where the Model 1892 Winchester is time-appropriate (the others I can think of are The Shootist and North To Alaska). With so many semi-automatic pistols actually available for the time setting of 1909, such as the C96 Mauser, P08 Lugar, Colt M1903 and M1908 Hammerless (or its FN twin) and Model 1903 Hammer, the FN/Browning No. 1 (M1900),Colt Model 1900 and Model 1905, and of course the lovely and elegant Bergman-Bayer Model 1910, as well as earlier Mannlichers and Bergmans such as the Styer Mannlichr 1894 and 1901, Mauser 1910 (design and development beginning in 1909), Steyr-Pieper Model 1908, etc. A few could considered anachronistic to the 1909 setting of the movie, but perhaps the same mechanism of saying it's a "preproduction model father, we own some stock" as Chris Mitchum's character said in the movie, could cover for that. I presume that line (and the use of a "pre-production" model pistol) was included in the script to show that under the matriarch, Maureen O'Hara, the family's fortune had diversified into many other fields than just cattle ranching. Would love to see Mauser, presuming it was financially feasible and viable, re-introduce the C96, and, if they could acquire the rights and possibly name, the M1910/21 Bergman-Bayer pistol. Offering them in both 9mm Parabellum and .380 ACP, with any necessary upgrades internally without altering appeaerance, and modern steel, with the C96 having, as the Bergman did and the later Schnellfeuer models did, a detachable (10 rnd) magazine and a choice of polymer or wood shoulder stock/holster (presuming that fascist U.S. and European gun laws don't prohibit this as making it a carbine). After WWII just such a semi-auto, detachable magazine version was made available for the U.S. market. Harleyguy 06:52 16 February 2010

Organizing firearms by type

I'm just organizing some pages. I'm not changing the text or screencaps, but I'm anal and I am grouping the firearms by type. --Jcordell 21:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)


I find it interesting that despite being set in 1909, no double-action revolvers appear in this film even though they were very common at the time.

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