I sure hate America Bashers..... Arghhh.:mad:

[Ace Oliveira]

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Give billions of dollars in stimulus funds to corporations who use it to send their execs on spa days? Health care insurance that (A) the very people pushing it don't want, (B) face huge fines and/or prison time if we wish to not have, and (C) covers everyone no matter the status of their citizenship?

Uhhhh, what?

I'll respond.

A: You are right about that. A lot of democrats don't want UHC because they are being paid by Lobbyists from Insurance companies. The same thing applies to republicans.

B: Where did that come from? I don't remember anything like that in the Health Care Bill. If Obama or anyone puts something like that in a UHC bill, then well, they are retarded.

C: That's what should happen. We should integrate immigrants into American society, not treat them like dogs.

Originally Posted by Checkman

When you get right down to it anybody who is ambitious enough to want to be president has to be something of an asshole anyway. Whether you like their political stance or not they have to be a jerk to do that job. If you're friendly, easy going and just an overall sweet person you're going to be eaten alive by the sharks.

I think that was Jimmy Carter's problem. Don't agree with his politics at all, but he seems to be a real Humanitarian (at least his public persona is that of a Humanitarian) which is the last type of person you want in the Oval Office. The United States is a major world power. We can't have a milquetoast as president. Liberal, moderate or conservative that person had better be an asshole to some extent if they're going to accomplish anything.

Personally I would never want to be POTUS.

I agree. You don't really have to be an asshole but you better have balls. Eisenhower had balls. FDR had balls. But they were all nice guys.

That's a problem with Obama. He tried to gain support from the Republicans. He should know by now that there is nothing he can do to gain the Republicans. He should stand up to them since all they're doing is scaremonging Americans off Universal Health Care by using stupid lies like Death Panels. He should also stand up to the Democrats that are in the Insurance company's pockets. Instead he just lets the Republicans run hog wild and letting the Lobbyists keep lobbying.

[MT2008]

*SIGH* We really can't avoid polarizing political topics, can we? Not that I'm criticizing you guys, as I've initiated plenty of these topics myself, just that I'm kind of wary of them.

And Oliveria, it's a bad sign when you resort to profanity early on. I'm not gonna tell you again: If you need to resort to cursing to get your points across, you sound (1.) immature, and (2.) as though you're heading down the polarizing route. Wise up and stop talking like the Boondock Saints.

[Checkman]

I think polarizing discussions are unavoidable on the Internet. And we do need to tone down on the profanity somewhat.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Checkman

we do need to tone down on the profanity somewhat.

Yeah, if we're going to have these conversations, they should be as civil as possible, meaning with as little profanity as possible.

[Ace Oliveira]

Hey, there was only one fuck in it! I think.

Anyway, this is the official politics thread. What are we gonna do about it?

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Ace Oliveira

Hey, there was only one fuck in it! I think.

Anyway, this is the official politics thread. What are we gonna do about it?

What you're gonna do is what I say...that's what. Avoid cursing, please.

[AdAstra2009]

..What MT2008 said