https://www.imfdb.org/api.php?action=feedcontributions&user=PersonOfInterest2&feedformat=atomInternet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games - User contributions [en]2024-03-28T11:02:08ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.35.7https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:GoldenEye_007&diff=334995Talk:GoldenEye 0072010-09-28T05:44:17Z<p>PersonOfInterest2: /* BIG FAT SWEATY UPDATE */</p>
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<div>=== Knives ===<br />
Two types of knives (technically the same, but wielded differently) are frequently used, Throwing Knives and Combat Knives.<br />
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[[Image:GE Knife.png|thumb|none|300px|The "Throwing Knives" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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=== Tank ===<br />
Its a Tank, and is featured in 2 levels. Did I mention the Tank is a Tank? <br />
haha! funny family guy joke<br />
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[[Image:Tank GE.png|thumb|none|300px|The "Tank" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== I'm not sure the inventory order is the best we can use. ==<br />
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While it's better having the weapons in some sort of order, the Goldeneye order is weird; for example, a revolver next to a sniper rifle and SMGs and assault rifles mixed up together for no good reason. I don't find this whole edit war thing productive, but I think it was in a better order the way I had it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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There's no reason to do it one way or another. This is an asinine topic, probably best to just leave it alone until somebody actually complains about it. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*I'm somebody. And if there's no reason to do it one way or the other, why not do it the way I suggest? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Automatic Shotgun ==<br />
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It's not a SPAS-12, it looks nothing like a SPAS-12, can we remove any mention of SPAS-12 from this article.<br />
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If you absolutely have to have to have to call it something, its a wood furniture Remington 1100 with a pistol grip, no stock, a sawed off barrel, and a Mossberg heat shield. Somebody do a mock up of that (it doesn't exist on GIS, I've looked) and do a comparison.<br />
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Still doesn't make it that though, so just keep it "Automatic Shotgun". [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*Most people seem to be able to see some SPAS-12 in it [we've got at least three who've added it or suggested it stay so far]. The heat shield plus that diagonal slant down onto it is the main point of comparison, though you're right it's a horrible resemblance and turns into a generic pump action as soon as you get past the heat shield. Also, if you want to mock up guns in photoshop, try this: http://avro504.hp.infoseek.co.jp/teppoo/gunicon.html <br><br>Also, the article doesn't say it's a SPAS-12 anymore, just that the front end has a couple of similarities. I might edit it to be even more clear that it certainly isn't a SPAS, and add this for proof:<br />
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[[Image:Automatic_Shotgun.png|thumb|none|400px]]<br />
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:Since that shows any similarity is purely confined to the front (as a side note, I especially like how the pump seems to travel all the way back to the pistol grip on what appears to be a shelf bracket which ''covers the trigger completely''). A more simple evaluation: it's an FPS, it's an automatic shotgun. It's not a Jackhammer, so it's a SPAS. If it's not a SPAS then it's a USAS-12 and I don't think we should go there. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Also, you messed up linking to your user page again. Sign with four tildes [<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>] or format the link as <nowiki>[[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]</nowiki>. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 10:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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It's a shotgun in a video game it doesn't "have to" be anything. Let go of your SPAS 12 fantasy. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*It seems the only person even remotely concerned with this is you. Give it a rest, the features are described as a "slight resemblance" in the article and that's all. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 07:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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===BIG FAT SWEATY UPDATE===<br />
It's a Remington 1100. I remember posting in the forum discussion that *if* the "automatic shotgun" was anything, it was a [[Remington 1100]] with a sawed off barrel, a pistol grip, no stock, and a heat shield. I searched and searched and it seemed such a gun did not exist, so i said "fudge it" and went home. Then I came across this little gem right here.<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-222544.jpg|thumb|400px|none]]<br />
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Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the [[GoldenEye 007|Goldeneye]] automatic shotgun is modelled after the gun used by [[Kurtwood Smith|Red Foreman]] to put a boot up [[Robocop|Robocop's]] ass. "But the color of the forearm is different and that one has a folding stock" you say. AKMS's and SPECTRE M4's are supposed to have folding stocks too. P90's are supposed to be green. Point Game Checkmate. - POI<br />
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PS The pump-action shotgun so closely resembling the folding stock 870 from [[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]] backs up my theory IMSO (In My Smug Opinion)<br />
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Why is it OK to mention the pump shotgun resembling the 870 from [[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]] and that the sniper rifle resembles the WA2000 from [[The Living Daylights]], but it is verboten to mention that the auto shotgun resembles the customized 1100 from [[RoboCop]]? None of them are specifically ID'ed as those things, so what's the problem? [[User:PersonOfInterest2|PersonOfInterest2]] 05:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== The 'Nade Launcher ==<br />
The Grenade Launcher doesn't look like the DefTech. It looks like the grenade launcher in [[Predator]] but that one wasn't a real gun. Anyone have any idea what that motherfucking 'nade launcher is supposed to represent?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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*Something with "adjustable spray nozzle" in the description judging by the muzzle. Also fitted with an underbarrel microphone. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 19:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, i admit i laughed at the underbarrel microphone. Now i can't unsee it. Thank you Dongs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The rocket launcher <br />
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Shouldnt the rocket launcher be based on the RPG-7 instead?<br />
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*No, because it only has one grip, an RPG-7 has two. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 17:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:If it has only one grip, wouln't it be an RPG-2?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::<s>The Type 69's grip is in the middle of the weapon, the RPG-2's is near the muzzle of the tube.</s> <-Should not look at things the instant after waking up. Yes, it could be, but it's probably supposed to be an RPG-7 derivative. See: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/goldeneye/images/0/05/Rocket_Launcher.png for the Goldeneye Rocket Launcher. Apparently in early builds it had a three-shot magazine, was shoulder-fired [ie higher up on-screen] and looked different. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 19:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== "Generic rotary gun" ==<br />
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You forgot to mention the rotary guns in the Airport level. --[[Special:Contributions/208.85.242.212|208.85.242.212]] 10:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Airport level? What airport level?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 10:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Level 3, Runway, pillbox-enclosed rotary guns. They're in a few other places too I think. [[Special:Contributions/115.134.216.180|115.134.216.180]] 02:39, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I believe he's talking about the runway where you make your escape from the chemical weapons plant, though I don't recall any of those weapons there. just a tank and an endless stream of Soviet infantry. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== "Grenade Launcher" ==<br />
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The Grenade Launcher is supposed to be a Milkor MGL (Multiple Grenade Launcher). There are plenty of variants of it.<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M32_Grenade_Loading.jpg --[[Special:Contributions/208.85.242.212|208.85.242.212]] 10:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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No it is not supposed to be a Milkor, it resembles a Milkor just as much as it resembles an RG-6 or an Arwen. My money's on Rare copying the clunky looking bastard from [[Predator]] (and [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] agrees), seeing as they ripped off the Robocop shotgun. - POI<br />
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==AK-47 / Type 56==<br />
If anybody feels i really disrupted the cosmic order with that edit then go ahead and change it but at least look at this photo first please.<br />
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/goldeneye/images/7/76/Kalashnikov_AK47.png - POI<br />
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==Speculation You Say?==<br />
This game is full of guns that are copied from other movies. The fake AK-74 from Goldeneye is the most obvious, and Dongs pointed out the very unique infrared scope set up on the sniper rifle copied from The Living Daylights. The grenade launcher is quite a good match for the launcher from Predator. The folding stock 870 with the shells on top is a very iconic image from Terminator 2: Judgement Day, what else could it possibly be? As for the "automatic shotgun", yeah I guess that technically would be speculation, but consider all the other guns in this game ripped from movies, the popularity of Robocop, and the fact that I described a gun similar to Kurtwood Smith's customized 1100 as a potential candidate for this shotgun BEFORE I had even seen the screencap that I later used to identify it. Pretty safe speculation, I would say. - [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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:"This game is full of guns that are copied from other movies" well I just see a bunch of crappily generically modeled weapons. The only reason that you see them as movie guns is because it is what you are used to seeing/want to see. Your mind is matrixing so that you see what you want to see. There is no indication AT ALL that these weapons were ripped from a movie. Maybe its where the artist could have gotten his inspiration but anything else is pure speculation. To label such a crappily drawn generic weapon in this game as a such certain a specific weapon is a mockery of IMFDB in my opinion , akin to if someone were to parody IMFDB on SNL. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:11, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Well if you want to take it to a logical extreme then nothing in this game can be defined as anything. The PP7 is a black pocket pistol, the DD44 is a grey pistol. The KF7 would be better described as an AK-47 or AKM with the wooden stock removed due to a lack of holes where the folding stock would be. Being labelled as "AK-47" in the beta version doesn't mean anything, it's just another misidentification, a common occurance in games AND movies The RCP90 shouldn't count as anything. If you're uncomfortable giving a concrete identification of anything then at least mention the similarities. You can't completely ignore when something bares a resemblance to something that actually does exist. Example: don't say the auto shotgun definitively is a Remington 1100 a la Robocop, say it is most similar to the Remington 1100 from Robocop. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]] 22:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::What I've done now appears to be a sensible solution. Maybe this way of labelling things can be used in other video game articles. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]] 23:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ain't nobody fucking asking you your opinion! Stuff it!<br />
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=='''Rocket Launcher'''==<br />
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I don't know how anyone can write that it is 'generically' based of a type 96 RPG. It looks more like an AT4 than anything else. I mean, sure it's got a vertical fore grip, but don't you think that's kind of a stretch? [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 09:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It looks nothing like an AT4. It most resembles a Type 69 because it has a single pistol grip and an external warhead, neither of which are present on the AT4. It's not exactly a Type 69, so it's not labeled as a Type 69, the picture is just there for comparison. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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==Cougar Magnum/Ruger Redhawk text==<br />
"The Cougar Magnum appears to be based on the [[Ruger Redhawk]]. Despite a slow rate of fire, it is suprisingly powerful; capable of shooting through doors and other objects while retaining lethal force. It is also used by Natalya to plow through the jungle."<br />
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I changed this text because it makes no sense. "Also used by Natalya"? It's ONLY used by Natalya, you can't even pick it up off of her if she dies. And what is so surprising about a slow firing weapon being powerful? There are lots of video game weapons that are powerful and slow. You can't have powerful and fast because that wouldn't be balanced. And it is not at all worth mentioning that it "[retains] lethal force" because other guns that fire through objects (AR33, RCP90, Moonraker Laser) also "[retain] lethal force". Just mention that those guns can all shoot through doors, objects, and people and that's all that needs to be said.<br />
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Please don't ban me again, I'm not a vandal and banning me from the wiki because of my conduct on the forums was grossly unfair. [[User:PersonOfInterest2|PersonOfInterest2]] 05:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</div>PersonOfInterest2https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:GoldenEye_007&diff=334994Talk:GoldenEye 0072010-09-28T05:41:05Z<p>PersonOfInterest2: /* Cougar Magnum/Ruger Redhawk text */</p>
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<div>=== Knives ===<br />
Two types of knives (technically the same, but wielded differently) are frequently used, Throwing Knives and Combat Knives.<br />
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[[Image:GE Knife.png|thumb|none|300px|The "Throwing Knives" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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=== Tank ===<br />
Its a Tank, and is featured in 2 levels. Did I mention the Tank is a Tank? <br />
haha! funny family guy joke<br />
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[[Image:Tank GE.png|thumb|none|300px|The "Tank" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== I'm not sure the inventory order is the best we can use. ==<br />
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While it's better having the weapons in some sort of order, the Goldeneye order is weird; for example, a revolver next to a sniper rifle and SMGs and assault rifles mixed up together for no good reason. I don't find this whole edit war thing productive, but I think it was in a better order the way I had it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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There's no reason to do it one way or another. This is an asinine topic, probably best to just leave it alone until somebody actually complains about it. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*I'm somebody. And if there's no reason to do it one way or the other, why not do it the way I suggest? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Automatic Shotgun ==<br />
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It's not a SPAS-12, it looks nothing like a SPAS-12, can we remove any mention of SPAS-12 from this article.<br />
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If you absolutely have to have to have to call it something, its a wood furniture Remington 1100 with a pistol grip, no stock, a sawed off barrel, and a Mossberg heat shield. Somebody do a mock up of that (it doesn't exist on GIS, I've looked) and do a comparison.<br />
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Still doesn't make it that though, so just keep it "Automatic Shotgun". [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*Most people seem to be able to see some SPAS-12 in it [we've got at least three who've added it or suggested it stay so far]. The heat shield plus that diagonal slant down onto it is the main point of comparison, though you're right it's a horrible resemblance and turns into a generic pump action as soon as you get past the heat shield. Also, if you want to mock up guns in photoshop, try this: http://avro504.hp.infoseek.co.jp/teppoo/gunicon.html <br><br>Also, the article doesn't say it's a SPAS-12 anymore, just that the front end has a couple of similarities. I might edit it to be even more clear that it certainly isn't a SPAS, and add this for proof:<br />
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[[Image:Automatic_Shotgun.png|thumb|none|400px]]<br />
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:Since that shows any similarity is purely confined to the front (as a side note, I especially like how the pump seems to travel all the way back to the pistol grip on what appears to be a shelf bracket which ''covers the trigger completely''). A more simple evaluation: it's an FPS, it's an automatic shotgun. It's not a Jackhammer, so it's a SPAS. If it's not a SPAS then it's a USAS-12 and I don't think we should go there. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Also, you messed up linking to your user page again. Sign with four tildes [<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>] or format the link as <nowiki>[[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]</nowiki>. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 10:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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It's a shotgun in a video game it doesn't "have to" be anything. Let go of your SPAS 12 fantasy. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*It seems the only person even remotely concerned with this is you. Give it a rest, the features are described as a "slight resemblance" in the article and that's all. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 07:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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===BIG FAT SWEATY UPDATE===<br />
It's a Remington 1100. I remember posting in the forum discussion that *if* the "automatic shotgun" was anything, it was a [[Remington 1100]] with a sawed off barrel, a pistol grip, no stock, and a heat shield. I searched and searched and it seemed such a gun did not exist, so i said "fudge it" and went home. Then I came across this little gem right here.<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-222544.jpg|thumb|400px|none]]<br />
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Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the [[GoldenEye 007|Goldeneye]] automatic shotgun is modelled after the gun used by [[Kurtwood Smith|Red Foreman]] to put a boot up [[Robocop|Robocop's]] ass. "But the color of the forearm is different and that one has a folding stock" you say. AKMS's and SPECTRE M4's are supposed to have folding stocks too. P90's are supposed to be green. Point Game Checkmate. - POI<br />
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PS The pump-action shotgun so closely resembling the folding stock 870 from [[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]] backs up my theory IMSO (In My Smug Opinion)<br />
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== The 'Nade Launcher ==<br />
The Grenade Launcher doesn't look like the DefTech. It looks like the grenade launcher in [[Predator]] but that one wasn't a real gun. Anyone have any idea what that motherfucking 'nade launcher is supposed to represent?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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*Something with "adjustable spray nozzle" in the description judging by the muzzle. Also fitted with an underbarrel microphone. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 19:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, i admit i laughed at the underbarrel microphone. Now i can't unsee it. Thank you Dongs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The rocket launcher <br />
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Shouldnt the rocket launcher be based on the RPG-7 instead?<br />
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*No, because it only has one grip, an RPG-7 has two. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 17:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:If it has only one grip, wouln't it be an RPG-2?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::<s>The Type 69's grip is in the middle of the weapon, the RPG-2's is near the muzzle of the tube.</s> <-Should not look at things the instant after waking up. Yes, it could be, but it's probably supposed to be an RPG-7 derivative. See: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/goldeneye/images/0/05/Rocket_Launcher.png for the Goldeneye Rocket Launcher. Apparently in early builds it had a three-shot magazine, was shoulder-fired [ie higher up on-screen] and looked different. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 19:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== "Generic rotary gun" ==<br />
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You forgot to mention the rotary guns in the Airport level. --[[Special:Contributions/208.85.242.212|208.85.242.212]] 10:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Airport level? What airport level?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 10:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Level 3, Runway, pillbox-enclosed rotary guns. They're in a few other places too I think. [[Special:Contributions/115.134.216.180|115.134.216.180]] 02:39, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I believe he's talking about the runway where you make your escape from the chemical weapons plant, though I don't recall any of those weapons there. just a tank and an endless stream of Soviet infantry. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== "Grenade Launcher" ==<br />
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The Grenade Launcher is supposed to be a Milkor MGL (Multiple Grenade Launcher). There are plenty of variants of it.<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M32_Grenade_Loading.jpg --[[Special:Contributions/208.85.242.212|208.85.242.212]] 10:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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No it is not supposed to be a Milkor, it resembles a Milkor just as much as it resembles an RG-6 or an Arwen. My money's on Rare copying the clunky looking bastard from [[Predator]] (and [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] agrees), seeing as they ripped off the Robocop shotgun. - POI<br />
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==AK-47 / Type 56==<br />
If anybody feels i really disrupted the cosmic order with that edit then go ahead and change it but at least look at this photo first please.<br />
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/goldeneye/images/7/76/Kalashnikov_AK47.png - POI<br />
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==Speculation You Say?==<br />
This game is full of guns that are copied from other movies. The fake AK-74 from Goldeneye is the most obvious, and Dongs pointed out the very unique infrared scope set up on the sniper rifle copied from The Living Daylights. The grenade launcher is quite a good match for the launcher from Predator. The folding stock 870 with the shells on top is a very iconic image from Terminator 2: Judgement Day, what else could it possibly be? As for the "automatic shotgun", yeah I guess that technically would be speculation, but consider all the other guns in this game ripped from movies, the popularity of Robocop, and the fact that I described a gun similar to Kurtwood Smith's customized 1100 as a potential candidate for this shotgun BEFORE I had even seen the screencap that I later used to identify it. Pretty safe speculation, I would say. - [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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:"This game is full of guns that are copied from other movies" well I just see a bunch of crappily generically modeled weapons. The only reason that you see them as movie guns is because it is what you are used to seeing/want to see. Your mind is matrixing so that you see what you want to see. There is no indication AT ALL that these weapons were ripped from a movie. Maybe its where the artist could have gotten his inspiration but anything else is pure speculation. To label such a crappily drawn generic weapon in this game as a such certain a specific weapon is a mockery of IMFDB in my opinion , akin to if someone were to parody IMFDB on SNL. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:11, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Well if you want to take it to a logical extreme then nothing in this game can be defined as anything. The PP7 is a black pocket pistol, the DD44 is a grey pistol. The KF7 would be better described as an AK-47 or AKM with the wooden stock removed due to a lack of holes where the folding stock would be. Being labelled as "AK-47" in the beta version doesn't mean anything, it's just another misidentification, a common occurance in games AND movies The RCP90 shouldn't count as anything. If you're uncomfortable giving a concrete identification of anything then at least mention the similarities. You can't completely ignore when something bares a resemblance to something that actually does exist. Example: don't say the auto shotgun definitively is a Remington 1100 a la Robocop, say it is most similar to the Remington 1100 from Robocop. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]] 22:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::What I've done now appears to be a sensible solution. Maybe this way of labelling things can be used in other video game articles. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]] 23:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ain't nobody fucking asking you your opinion! Stuff it!<br />
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=='''Rocket Launcher'''==<br />
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I don't know how anyone can write that it is 'generically' based of a type 96 RPG. It looks more like an AT4 than anything else. I mean, sure it's got a vertical fore grip, but don't you think that's kind of a stretch? [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 09:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It looks nothing like an AT4. It most resembles a Type 69 because it has a single pistol grip and an external warhead, neither of which are present on the AT4. It's not exactly a Type 69, so it's not labeled as a Type 69, the picture is just there for comparison. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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==Cougar Magnum/Ruger Redhawk text==<br />
"The Cougar Magnum appears to be based on the [[Ruger Redhawk]]. Despite a slow rate of fire, it is suprisingly powerful; capable of shooting through doors and other objects while retaining lethal force. It is also used by Natalya to plow through the jungle."<br />
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I changed this text because it makes no sense. "Also used by Natalya"? It's ONLY used by Natalya, you can't even pick it up off of her if she dies. And what is so surprising about a slow firing weapon being powerful? There are lots of video game weapons that are powerful and slow. You can't have powerful and fast because that wouldn't be balanced. And it is not at all worth mentioning that it "[retains] lethal force" because other guns that fire through objects (AR33, RCP90, Moonraker Laser) also "[retain] lethal force". Just mention that those guns can all shoot through doors, objects, and people and that's all that needs to be said.<br />
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Please don't ban me again, I'm not a vandal and banning me from the wiki because of my conduct on the forums was grossly unfair. [[User:PersonOfInterest2|PersonOfInterest2]] 05:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</div>PersonOfInterest2https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:GoldenEye_007&diff=334993Talk:GoldenEye 0072010-09-28T05:40:14Z<p>PersonOfInterest2: /* Cougar Magnum/Ruger Redhawk text */</p>
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<div>=== Knives ===<br />
Two types of knives (technically the same, but wielded differently) are frequently used, Throwing Knives and Combat Knives.<br />
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[[Image:GE Knife.png|thumb|none|300px|The "Throwing Knives" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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=== Tank ===<br />
Its a Tank, and is featured in 2 levels. Did I mention the Tank is a Tank? <br />
haha! funny family guy joke<br />
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[[Image:Tank GE.png|thumb|none|300px|The "Tank" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== I'm not sure the inventory order is the best we can use. ==<br />
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While it's better having the weapons in some sort of order, the Goldeneye order is weird; for example, a revolver next to a sniper rifle and SMGs and assault rifles mixed up together for no good reason. I don't find this whole edit war thing productive, but I think it was in a better order the way I had it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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There's no reason to do it one way or another. This is an asinine topic, probably best to just leave it alone until somebody actually complains about it. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*I'm somebody. And if there's no reason to do it one way or the other, why not do it the way I suggest? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Automatic Shotgun ==<br />
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It's not a SPAS-12, it looks nothing like a SPAS-12, can we remove any mention of SPAS-12 from this article.<br />
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If you absolutely have to have to have to call it something, its a wood furniture Remington 1100 with a pistol grip, no stock, a sawed off barrel, and a Mossberg heat shield. Somebody do a mock up of that (it doesn't exist on GIS, I've looked) and do a comparison.<br />
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Still doesn't make it that though, so just keep it "Automatic Shotgun". [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*Most people seem to be able to see some SPAS-12 in it [we've got at least three who've added it or suggested it stay so far]. The heat shield plus that diagonal slant down onto it is the main point of comparison, though you're right it's a horrible resemblance and turns into a generic pump action as soon as you get past the heat shield. Also, if you want to mock up guns in photoshop, try this: http://avro504.hp.infoseek.co.jp/teppoo/gunicon.html <br><br>Also, the article doesn't say it's a SPAS-12 anymore, just that the front end has a couple of similarities. I might edit it to be even more clear that it certainly isn't a SPAS, and add this for proof:<br />
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[[Image:Automatic_Shotgun.png|thumb|none|400px]]<br />
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:Since that shows any similarity is purely confined to the front (as a side note, I especially like how the pump seems to travel all the way back to the pistol grip on what appears to be a shelf bracket which ''covers the trigger completely''). A more simple evaluation: it's an FPS, it's an automatic shotgun. It's not a Jackhammer, so it's a SPAS. If it's not a SPAS then it's a USAS-12 and I don't think we should go there. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Also, you messed up linking to your user page again. Sign with four tildes [<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>] or format the link as <nowiki>[[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]</nowiki>. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 10:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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It's a shotgun in a video game it doesn't "have to" be anything. Let go of your SPAS 12 fantasy. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*It seems the only person even remotely concerned with this is you. Give it a rest, the features are described as a "slight resemblance" in the article and that's all. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 07:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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===BIG FAT SWEATY UPDATE===<br />
It's a Remington 1100. I remember posting in the forum discussion that *if* the "automatic shotgun" was anything, it was a [[Remington 1100]] with a sawed off barrel, a pistol grip, no stock, and a heat shield. I searched and searched and it seemed such a gun did not exist, so i said "fudge it" and went home. Then I came across this little gem right here.<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-222544.jpg|thumb|400px|none]]<br />
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Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the [[GoldenEye 007|Goldeneye]] automatic shotgun is modelled after the gun used by [[Kurtwood Smith|Red Foreman]] to put a boot up [[Robocop|Robocop's]] ass. "But the color of the forearm is different and that one has a folding stock" you say. AKMS's and SPECTRE M4's are supposed to have folding stocks too. P90's are supposed to be green. Point Game Checkmate. - POI<br />
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PS The pump-action shotgun so closely resembling the folding stock 870 from [[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]] backs up my theory IMSO (In My Smug Opinion)<br />
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== The 'Nade Launcher ==<br />
The Grenade Launcher doesn't look like the DefTech. It looks like the grenade launcher in [[Predator]] but that one wasn't a real gun. Anyone have any idea what that motherfucking 'nade launcher is supposed to represent?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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*Something with "adjustable spray nozzle" in the description judging by the muzzle. Also fitted with an underbarrel microphone. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 19:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, i admit i laughed at the underbarrel microphone. Now i can't unsee it. Thank you Dongs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The rocket launcher <br />
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Shouldnt the rocket launcher be based on the RPG-7 instead?<br />
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*No, because it only has one grip, an RPG-7 has two. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 17:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:If it has only one grip, wouln't it be an RPG-2?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::<s>The Type 69's grip is in the middle of the weapon, the RPG-2's is near the muzzle of the tube.</s> <-Should not look at things the instant after waking up. Yes, it could be, but it's probably supposed to be an RPG-7 derivative. See: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/goldeneye/images/0/05/Rocket_Launcher.png for the Goldeneye Rocket Launcher. Apparently in early builds it had a three-shot magazine, was shoulder-fired [ie higher up on-screen] and looked different. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 19:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== "Generic rotary gun" ==<br />
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You forgot to mention the rotary guns in the Airport level. --[[Special:Contributions/208.85.242.212|208.85.242.212]] 10:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Airport level? What airport level?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 10:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Level 3, Runway, pillbox-enclosed rotary guns. They're in a few other places too I think. [[Special:Contributions/115.134.216.180|115.134.216.180]] 02:39, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I believe he's talking about the runway where you make your escape from the chemical weapons plant, though I don't recall any of those weapons there. just a tank and an endless stream of Soviet infantry. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== "Grenade Launcher" ==<br />
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The Grenade Launcher is supposed to be a Milkor MGL (Multiple Grenade Launcher). There are plenty of variants of it.<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M32_Grenade_Loading.jpg --[[Special:Contributions/208.85.242.212|208.85.242.212]] 10:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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No it is not supposed to be a Milkor, it resembles a Milkor just as much as it resembles an RG-6 or an Arwen. My money's on Rare copying the clunky looking bastard from [[Predator]] (and [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] agrees), seeing as they ripped off the Robocop shotgun. - POI<br />
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==AK-47 / Type 56==<br />
If anybody feels i really disrupted the cosmic order with that edit then go ahead and change it but at least look at this photo first please.<br />
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/goldeneye/images/7/76/Kalashnikov_AK47.png - POI<br />
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==Speculation You Say?==<br />
This game is full of guns that are copied from other movies. The fake AK-74 from Goldeneye is the most obvious, and Dongs pointed out the very unique infrared scope set up on the sniper rifle copied from The Living Daylights. The grenade launcher is quite a good match for the launcher from Predator. The folding stock 870 with the shells on top is a very iconic image from Terminator 2: Judgement Day, what else could it possibly be? As for the "automatic shotgun", yeah I guess that technically would be speculation, but consider all the other guns in this game ripped from movies, the popularity of Robocop, and the fact that I described a gun similar to Kurtwood Smith's customized 1100 as a potential candidate for this shotgun BEFORE I had even seen the screencap that I later used to identify it. Pretty safe speculation, I would say. - [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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:"This game is full of guns that are copied from other movies" well I just see a bunch of crappily generically modeled weapons. The only reason that you see them as movie guns is because it is what you are used to seeing/want to see. Your mind is matrixing so that you see what you want to see. There is no indication AT ALL that these weapons were ripped from a movie. Maybe its where the artist could have gotten his inspiration but anything else is pure speculation. To label such a crappily drawn generic weapon in this game as a such certain a specific weapon is a mockery of IMFDB in my opinion , akin to if someone were to parody IMFDB on SNL. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:11, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Well if you want to take it to a logical extreme then nothing in this game can be defined as anything. The PP7 is a black pocket pistol, the DD44 is a grey pistol. The KF7 would be better described as an AK-47 or AKM with the wooden stock removed due to a lack of holes where the folding stock would be. Being labelled as "AK-47" in the beta version doesn't mean anything, it's just another misidentification, a common occurance in games AND movies The RCP90 shouldn't count as anything. If you're uncomfortable giving a concrete identification of anything then at least mention the similarities. You can't completely ignore when something bares a resemblance to something that actually does exist. Example: don't say the auto shotgun definitively is a Remington 1100 a la Robocop, say it is most similar to the Remington 1100 from Robocop. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]] 22:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::What I've done now appears to be a sensible solution. Maybe this way of labelling things can be used in other video game articles. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]] 23:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ain't nobody fucking asking you your opinion! Stuff it!<br />
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=='''Rocket Launcher'''==<br />
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I don't know how anyone can write that it is 'generically' based of a type 96 RPG. It looks more like an AT4 than anything else. I mean, sure it's got a vertical fore grip, but don't you think that's kind of a stretch? [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 09:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It looks nothing like an AT4. It most resembles a Type 69 because it has a single pistol grip and an external warhead, neither of which are present on the AT4. It's not exactly a Type 69, so it's not labeled as a Type 69, the picture is just there for comparison. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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==Cougar Magnum/Ruger Redhawk text==<br />
"The Cougar Magnum appears to be based on the [[Ruger Redhawk]]. Despite a slow rate of fire, it is suprisingly powerful; capable of shooting through doors and other objects while retaining lethal force. It is also used by Natalya to plow through the jungle."<br />
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I changed this text because it makes no sense. "Also used by Natalya"? It's ONLY used by Natalya, you can't even pick it up off of her if she dies. And what is so surprising about a slow firing weapon being powerful? There are lots of video game weapons that are powerful and slow. You can't have powerful and fast because that wouldn't be balanced. And it is not at all worth mentioning that it "[retains] lethal force" because other guns that fire through objects (AR33, RCP90, Moonraker Laser) also "[retain] lethal force". Just mention that those guns can all shoot through doors, objects, and people and that's all that needs to be said.<br />
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Please don't ban me again, I'm not a vandal and banning me from the wiki was grossly unfair. [[User:PersonOfInterest2|PersonOfInterest2]] 05:40, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</div>PersonOfInterest2https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Talk:GoldenEye_007&diff=334992Talk:GoldenEye 0072010-09-28T05:38:59Z<p>PersonOfInterest2: </p>
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<div>=== Knives ===<br />
Two types of knives (technically the same, but wielded differently) are frequently used, Throwing Knives and Combat Knives.<br />
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[[Image:GE Knife.png|thumb|none|300px|The "Throwing Knives" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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=== Tank ===<br />
Its a Tank, and is featured in 2 levels. Did I mention the Tank is a Tank? <br />
haha! funny family guy joke<br />
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[[Image:Tank GE.png|thumb|none|300px|The "Tank" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== I'm not sure the inventory order is the best we can use. ==<br />
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While it's better having the weapons in some sort of order, the Goldeneye order is weird; for example, a revolver next to a sniper rifle and SMGs and assault rifles mixed up together for no good reason. I don't find this whole edit war thing productive, but I think it was in a better order the way I had it. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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There's no reason to do it one way or another. This is an asinine topic, probably best to just leave it alone until somebody actually complains about it. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*I'm somebody. And if there's no reason to do it one way or the other, why not do it the way I suggest? [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:20, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== Automatic Shotgun ==<br />
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It's not a SPAS-12, it looks nothing like a SPAS-12, can we remove any mention of SPAS-12 from this article.<br />
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If you absolutely have to have to have to call it something, its a wood furniture Remington 1100 with a pistol grip, no stock, a sawed off barrel, and a Mossberg heat shield. Somebody do a mock up of that (it doesn't exist on GIS, I've looked) and do a comparison.<br />
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Still doesn't make it that though, so just keep it "Automatic Shotgun". [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*Most people seem to be able to see some SPAS-12 in it [we've got at least three who've added it or suggested it stay so far]. The heat shield plus that diagonal slant down onto it is the main point of comparison, though you're right it's a horrible resemblance and turns into a generic pump action as soon as you get past the heat shield. Also, if you want to mock up guns in photoshop, try this: http://avro504.hp.infoseek.co.jp/teppoo/gunicon.html <br><br>Also, the article doesn't say it's a SPAS-12 anymore, just that the front end has a couple of similarities. I might edit it to be even more clear that it certainly isn't a SPAS, and add this for proof:<br />
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[[Image:Automatic_Shotgun.png|thumb|none|400px]]<br />
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:Since that shows any similarity is purely confined to the front (as a side note, I especially like how the pump seems to travel all the way back to the pistol grip on what appears to be a shelf bracket which ''covers the trigger completely''). A more simple evaluation: it's an FPS, it's an automatic shotgun. It's not a Jackhammer, so it's a SPAS. If it's not a SPAS then it's a USAS-12 and I don't think we should go there. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 07:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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::Also, you messed up linking to your user page again. Sign with four tildes [<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>] or format the link as <nowiki>[[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]</nowiki>. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 10:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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It's a shotgun in a video game it doesn't "have to" be anything. Let go of your SPAS 12 fantasy. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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*It seems the only person even remotely concerned with this is you. Give it a rest, the features are described as a "slight resemblance" in the article and that's all. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 07:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)<br />
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===BIG FAT SWEATY UPDATE===<br />
It's a Remington 1100. I remember posting in the forum discussion that *if* the "automatic shotgun" was anything, it was a [[Remington 1100]] with a sawed off barrel, a pistol grip, no stock, and a heat shield. I searched and searched and it seemed such a gun did not exist, so i said "fudge it" and went home. Then I came across this little gem right here.<br />
[[Image:Vlcsnap-222544.jpg|thumb|400px|none]]<br />
<br />
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the [[GoldenEye 007|Goldeneye]] automatic shotgun is modelled after the gun used by [[Kurtwood Smith|Red Foreman]] to put a boot up [[Robocop|Robocop's]] ass. "But the color of the forearm is different and that one has a folding stock" you say. AKMS's and SPECTRE M4's are supposed to have folding stocks too. P90's are supposed to be green. Point Game Checkmate. - POI<br />
<br />
PS The pump-action shotgun so closely resembling the folding stock 870 from [[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]] backs up my theory IMSO (In My Smug Opinion)<br />
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== The 'Nade Launcher ==<br />
The Grenade Launcher doesn't look like the DefTech. It looks like the grenade launcher in [[Predator]] but that one wasn't a real gun. Anyone have any idea what that motherfucking 'nade launcher is supposed to represent?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:17, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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*Something with "adjustable spray nozzle" in the description judging by the muzzle. Also fitted with an underbarrel microphone. [[User:Dongs|Dongs]] 19:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Ok, i admit i laughed at the underbarrel microphone. Now i can't unsee it. Thank you Dongs.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 20:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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The rocket launcher <br />
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Shouldnt the rocket launcher be based on the RPG-7 instead?<br />
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*No, because it only has one grip, an RPG-7 has two. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 17:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:If it has only one grip, wouln't it be an RPG-2?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 18:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
::<s>The Type 69's grip is in the middle of the weapon, the RPG-2's is near the muzzle of the tube.</s> <-Should not look at things the instant after waking up. Yes, it could be, but it's probably supposed to be an RPG-7 derivative. See: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/goldeneye/images/0/05/Rocket_Launcher.png for the Goldeneye Rocket Launcher. Apparently in early builds it had a three-shot magazine, was shoulder-fired [ie higher up on-screen] and looked different. [[User:Tim|Tim]] 19:13, 26 June 2009 (UTC)<br />
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== "Generic rotary gun" ==<br />
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You forgot to mention the rotary guns in the Airport level. --[[Special:Contributions/208.85.242.212|208.85.242.212]] 10:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
:Airport level? What airport level?--[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 10:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
::Level 3, Runway, pillbox-enclosed rotary guns. They're in a few other places too I think. [[Special:Contributions/115.134.216.180|115.134.216.180]] 02:39, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I believe he's talking about the runway where you make your escape from the chemical weapons plant, though I don't recall any of those weapons there. just a tank and an endless stream of Soviet infantry. [[User:Orca1 9904|Orca1 9904]] 04:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== "Grenade Launcher" ==<br />
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The Grenade Launcher is supposed to be a Milkor MGL (Multiple Grenade Launcher). There are plenty of variants of it.<br />
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:M32_Grenade_Loading.jpg --[[Special:Contributions/208.85.242.212|208.85.242.212]] 10:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)<br />
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No it is not supposed to be a Milkor, it resembles a Milkor just as much as it resembles an RG-6 or an Arwen. My money's on Rare copying the clunky looking bastard from [[Predator]] (and [[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] agrees), seeing as they ripped off the Robocop shotgun. - POI<br />
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==AK-47 / Type 56==<br />
If anybody feels i really disrupted the cosmic order with that edit then go ahead and change it but at least look at this photo first please.<br />
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/goldeneye/images/7/76/Kalashnikov_AK47.png - POI<br />
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==Speculation You Say?==<br />
This game is full of guns that are copied from other movies. The fake AK-74 from Goldeneye is the most obvious, and Dongs pointed out the very unique infrared scope set up on the sniper rifle copied from The Living Daylights. The grenade launcher is quite a good match for the launcher from Predator. The folding stock 870 with the shells on top is a very iconic image from Terminator 2: Judgement Day, what else could it possibly be? As for the "automatic shotgun", yeah I guess that technically would be speculation, but consider all the other guns in this game ripped from movies, the popularity of Robocop, and the fact that I described a gun similar to Kurtwood Smith's customized 1100 as a potential candidate for this shotgun BEFORE I had even seen the screencap that I later used to identify it. Pretty safe speculation, I would say. - [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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:"This game is full of guns that are copied from other movies" well I just see a bunch of crappily generically modeled weapons. The only reason that you see them as movie guns is because it is what you are used to seeing/want to see. Your mind is matrixing so that you see what you want to see. There is no indication AT ALL that these weapons were ripped from a movie. Maybe its where the artist could have gotten his inspiration but anything else is pure speculation. To label such a crappily drawn generic weapon in this game as a such certain a specific weapon is a mockery of IMFDB in my opinion , akin to if someone were to parody IMFDB on SNL. --[[User:AdAstra2009|AdAstra2009]] 20:11, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Well if you want to take it to a logical extreme then nothing in this game can be defined as anything. The PP7 is a black pocket pistol, the DD44 is a grey pistol. The KF7 would be better described as an AK-47 or AKM with the wooden stock removed due to a lack of holes where the folding stock would be. Being labelled as "AK-47" in the beta version doesn't mean anything, it's just another misidentification, a common occurance in games AND movies The RCP90 shouldn't count as anything. If you're uncomfortable giving a concrete identification of anything then at least mention the similarities. You can't completely ignore when something bares a resemblance to something that actually does exist. Example: don't say the auto shotgun definitively is a Remington 1100 a la Robocop, say it is most similar to the Remington 1100 from Robocop. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]] 22:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::What I've done now appears to be a sensible solution. Maybe this way of labelling things can be used in other video game articles. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]] 23:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Ain't nobody fucking asking you your opinion! Stuff it!<br />
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=='''Rocket Launcher'''==<br />
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I don't know how anyone can write that it is 'generically' based of a type 96 RPG. It looks more like an AT4 than anything else. I mean, sure it's got a vertical fore grip, but don't you think that's kind of a stretch? [[Special:Contributions/65.29.239.251|65.29.239.251]] 09:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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It looks nothing like an AT4. It most resembles a Type 69 because it has a single pistol grip and an external warhead, neither of which are present on the AT4. It's not exactly a Type 69, so it's not labeled as a Type 69, the picture is just there for comparison. [[User:PersonOfInterest|PersonOfInterest]]<br />
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==Cougar Magnum/Ruger Redhawk text==<br />
"The Cougar Magnum appears to be based on the [[Ruger Redhawk]]. Despite a slow rate of fire, it is suprisingly powerful; capable of shooting through doors and other objects while retaining lethal force. It is also used by Natalya to plow through the jungle."<br />
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I changed this text because it makes no sense. "Also used by Natalya"? It's ONLY used by Natalya, you can't even pick it up off of her if she dies. And what is so surprising about a slow firing weapon being powerful? There are lots of video game weapons that are powerful and slow. You can't have powerful and fast because that wouldn't be balanced. And it is not at all worth mentioning that it "[retains] lethal force" because other guns that fire through objects (AR33, RCP90, Moonraker Laser) also "[retain] lethal force". Just mention that those guns can all shoot through doors, objects, and people and that's all that needs to be said.<br />
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Please don't ban me again, I'm not a vandal and banning me from the wiki was grossly unfair.</div>PersonOfInterest2https://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=GoldenEye_007&diff=334991GoldenEye 0072010-09-28T05:33:09Z<p>PersonOfInterest2: /* Ruger Redhawk */</p>
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<div>'''The following weapons were used in the video game ''GoldenEye 007'':'''<br />
[[Image:GoldenEye007box.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''GoldenEye 007'' (1997)]]<br />
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== Walther PPK ==<br />
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The PP7 is based on the [[Walther PP Pistol Series#Walther PPK|Walther PPK]], the handgun used by Bond in the original novels and a majority of the films, including ''[[GoldenEye]]''. In the first half of the game it is suppressed. It's Bond's main weapon, and is used in all the single-player missions. Boris fumbles one in Control. If Bond kills him, Natalya will refuse to proceed with the mission. Silver and gold versions can be unlocked, which deal damage equal to the Cougar Magnum and the Golden Gun, respectively.<br />
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[[Image:Walther-PPK.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Walther PPK .380 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:PP7 GE.png|thumb|none|400px|The "PP7" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
[[Image:WaltherPPKSuppressed.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Walther PPK with suppressor .380 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:Goleye5.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "PP7" in ''GoldenEye 007'', fitted with suppressor]]<br />
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== Tokarev TT-33 ==<br />
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The DD44 Dostovei appears to be based on the [[Tokarev TT-33]], with a stainless steel finish. Carried by Gen. Ouromov and other officers. Scientists and Defense Minister Dimitri Mishkin will defend themselves with Dostoveis when attacked, and Spetznaz soldiers sometimes dual wield them.<br />
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[[Image:TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Tokarev TT-33 7.62x25mm Tokarev]]<br />
[[Image:Goldeneye 64 - TT-33.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "DD44 Dostovei" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== Skorpion SA Vz 61 ==<br />
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The Klobb appears to be based on the [[Skorpion SA Vz 61|Skorpion SA Vz 61]] with the top-folding stock folded. It was originally called the Spyder, and later changed to Klobb after Rareware employee Ken Lobb. It is still listed in the game files alphabetically as if it were named Spyder. The Klobb is generally considered to be the most lackluster firearm in the game, having poor hitting power, a weak firing sound effect, dismal accuracy, and a small magazine size. Carried by Spetznaz and FSB agents.<br />
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[[Image:Skorpion-SA-VZ-61.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Skorpion SA Vz. 61 .32 ACP]]<br />
[[Image:Goldneye screen006.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Klobb" being wielded akimbo in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== Norinco Type 56-1 ==<br />
The "KF7 Soviet" appears to be based on the [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56-1|Norinco Type 56-1]], modified to resemble an [[AK-74#AKS-74|AKS-74]] as seen in ''[[GoldenEye]]''. It has the hooded front sight of the Type 56, the long AK-74 style muzzle brake, and the folding stock is missing. (Other firearms based on folding stock models also have missing stocks.)<br />
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[[Image:Type56MuzzleBrake.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Norinco Type 56-1 7.62x39mm modified to resemble an AKS-74 as seen in ''GoldenEye''.]]<br />
[[Image:Goleye6.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "KF7 Soviet" in ''GoldenEye 007''.]]<br />
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== Micro Uzi ==<br />
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The ZMG appears to be an Uzi Pistol converted to automatic fire or a [[Uzi#Micro Uzi|Micro Uzi]] with the folding stock removed. Carried by Alec Trevelyan's most loyal guards.<br />
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[[Image:MicroUziPistol02.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Micro Uzi 9x19mm with 32-round magazine]]<br />
[[Image:Goldneye screen015.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "ZMG 9mm" being double-wielded in ''GoldenEye 007''.]]<br />
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== Heckler & Koch MP5K ==<br />
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The D5K Deutsche appears to be based on the [[Heckler & Koch MP5#Heckler & Koch MP5K|Heckler & Koch MP5K]]. Standard weapon for Janus mercenaries. Bond uses one with a suppressor on the Frigate.<br />
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[[Image:MP5K-SEF.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Heckler & Koch MP5K 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:GE007Control1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "D5K Deutsche" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== SITES Spectre M4 ==<br />
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The Phantom appears to be based on the [[Spectre_M4|SITES Spectre M4]], though it is missing the top-folding stock. Used by a few Janus terrorists in Frigate.<br />
[[Image:Sites Spectre.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Spectre M4 9x19mm]]<br />
[[Image:007 Phantom.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Phantom" being wielded akimbo in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== M16A2 ==<br />
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The AR33 appears to be based on the [[M16 rifle series#M16A2 Rifle|M16A2 rifle]], though it can fire in both automatic and three-round burst modes.<br />
Carried by Janus mercenaries in Jungle and Cavern, and Drax security in Aztec. Trevelyan fights to the death with one in Cradle. In Aztec, Jaws wields them akimbo, likely owing to his immense height and strength shown in the James Bond films.<br />
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[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|350px|none|M16A2 5.56x45mm]]<br />
[[Image:Golden4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "AR33" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== FN P90 ==<br />
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The RC-P90 is similar to the [[FN P90]]. Though they share the same basic shape, the RC-P90 has wooden grips, no optical sight, and an 80 round magazine. Carried by Xenia Onatopp in combination with the grenade launcher in the "Jungle" level.<br />
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[[Image:FNP90.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Fabrique Nationale P90 5.7x28mm]]<br />
[[Image:RC-P90 007.png|thumb|none|400px|The "RC-P90" in ''GoldenEye 007''. Note the spent casing emerging from a random location somewhere on the right-hand side of the gun; this is another inaccuracy, the real P90 ejects downwards through a chute to the rear of the grip.]]<br />
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== Generic pump-action shotgun ==<br />
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The Shotgun is a pump action shotgun with a pistol grip, no stock, and an extended tube magazine. With the extra cartridges mounted on top of the receiver, it resembles the [[Remington 870 Shotgun#Remington 870 Folding Stock|Remington 870 folding stock]] seen in ''[[Terminator 2: Judgement Day]]''. It is not used in either the single player campaign or multiplayer deathmatches, and can only be accessed with the all guns cheat.<br />
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[[Image:Remington870PoliceFolded.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Superficially similar Remington 870 folding stock 12 gauge]]<br />
[[Image:GE Shotgun.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Shotgun" in ''GoldenEye 007''. Dropped from the game for unknown reasons, but still accessible with cheats.]]<br />
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== Generic semi-automatic shotgun ==<br />
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The Automatic Shotgun is a short-barrelled semiautomatic shotgun with a pistol grip, no stock, and a ventilated heat shield. Trevelyan's hit squad uses them in the "Statue" level, and they're also seen at the very end of the Caverns level. Notably, the visible shells attached to the weapon will be equal to the amount of shells in reserve if that number is five or lower. <br />
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[[image:GE Auto Shotgun.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Automatic Shotgun" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== Generic sniper rifle ==<br />
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The "Sniper Rifle" is a silenced semi-automatic sniper rifle with wooden furniture; it bears a passing resemblance to a couple of real-life sniper rifles, but none clearly enough to make a good judgment as to precisely what it was based on. Notably, the midsection is completely undetailed, the weapon having no clear action or magazine location. However, the rifle's scope layout and markings appear similar to the night vision scope on Bond's [[Walther WA 2000]] in ''[[The Living Daylights]]''.<br />
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When one of these weapons is in the players' inventory, the standard hand to hand karate chop attack is replaced by using the butt stock of the rifle as a makeshift melee club. Used by snowsuited marksmen in Surface. Bond finds one lying around in Dam.<br />
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[[Image:GoldenEye Sniper.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Sniper Rifle" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
[[Image:GoldenEye Sniper.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Sniper Rifle" in the pause menu]]<br />
[[Image:Livday-wa2000b.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bond with his WA2000 in ''The Living Daylights.'' The series of markings are similar on the actual scope of ''Goldeneye's'' sniper rifle.]]<br />
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== Ruger Redhawk ==<br />
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The Cougar Magnum appears to be based on the [[Ruger Redhawk]]. It is used by Natalya to plow through the jungle.<br />
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[[Image:RugerRedhawk.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Ruger Redhawk .44 Magnum]]<br />
[[Image:Cougar Magnum.png |thumb|none|400px|The "Cougar Magnum" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== "Golden Gun" ==<br />
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The fictional [[Golden Gun]], used by [[Christopher Lee]] in ''[[Man with the Golden Gun, The|The Man With The Golden Gun]]'', can be found in the Egyptian bonus level. It can also be unlocked and used in multiplayer mode. As with its' movie incarnation, a single shot from this weapon will immediately kill anyone it hits.<br />
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[[Image:Golden Gun.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Golden Gun]]<br />
[[Image:GE Goldengun.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Golden Gun" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== "Military Laser" ==<br />
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The Military Laser appears to be based on the Moonraker Laser, a prop from the movie ''[[Moonraker]]'' based on a plastic toy [[IMI Uzi]]. Used by Drax security in Aztec.<br />
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[[Image:Moonraker Laser GE.png|thumb|none|400px|''Goldeneye 007'' secret level "Aztec" is extremely loosely based on the movie ''Moonraker''. Here, Bond uses a Moonraker Laser to battle Hugo Drax's giant henchman Jaws, who is armed with a pair of AR33 assault rifles. Another AR33 lies on the ground nearby.]]<br />
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== Unknown multi-shot grenade launcher ==<br />
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The grenade launcher appears similar to the customized rotary grenade launcher in ''[[Predator]]''. Bond finds one behind a crate in Surface. Xenia dual wields one with a P90 in Jungle. Russian soldiers try to blow up Bond's stolen tank with grenade launchers in Streets.<br />
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[[Image:Grenade Launcher GE.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Grenade Launcher" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
[[Image:Goldeneye_GL.png|thumb|none|400px|Inventory Screen]]<br />
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== Unknown rocket launcher ==<br />
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The rocket launcher is aesthetically similar to the [[RPG-7#Type 69|Type 69]], both having a single pistol grip and an exposed warhead. The differences being the grey color scheme, lack of a carrying handle, and unintelligible markings. Russian soldiers use rocket launchers to attack Bond's stolen tank in Streets. Bond finds a cache of rocket launchers in Depot and uses them to destroy Janus's merchandise.<br />
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[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Aesthetically similar Type 69]]<br />
[[Image:GE Rocket Launcher.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Rocket Launcher" in ''GoldenEye 007''. The weapon's firing sound was used as the sound of a depth charge launcher firing in the 1959 movie ''Operation Petticoat''.]]<br />
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== Mk 2 hand grenade ==<br />
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The grenade appears to be based on the [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]. When thrown, the grenade makes a metallic 'clink' sound which can be used to alert the player that one has been thrown at them or if their own grenade has fallen short and landed too close to the player. Everyone carries these things, even scientists if aggravated with two shots that don't kill them.<br />
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[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]]<br />
[[Image:Fragging GE Grenade.jpg|thumb|none|400px|The "Grenade" in mid-throw in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== Mines ==<br />
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In the game four different mines were seen, 3 based off of the Remote Mine design seen in ''[[GoldenEye]]'' (the "Remote Mine", "Timed Mine", and a "Proximity Mine"), and anti tank mines are seen in the St. Petersburg level. All mine types can be defeated by shooting at them, provided the player is able to spot them before they're detonated.<br />
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[[Image:Remote Mine GE.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Remote Mine" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== Taser ==<br />
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A comically designed stun gun, known in-game as a "Tazer Boy", can be unlocked with the "All Guns" cheat. It is incorrectly referred to as a Taser; Tasers have the ability to shoot pronged electrodes, a less-lethal electronic device that can not shoot is simply known as a stun gun. The "Tazer Boy" can shoot a projectile that is identical to a very weak bullet, further making this gun complete fiction.<br />
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[[Image:Tazer Boy.png|thumb|none|400px|The "Tazer Boy" in ''GoldenEye 007'']]<br />
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== Generic rotary gun ==<br />
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In the single-player levels comprising the Janus bases in St. Petersburg and Cuba, as well as the two bonus levels, the player must beware of automated gun turrets mounted on the ceiling equipped with six-barrel miniguns. These lack detail to the extent that declaring a precise model would be giving entirely too much credit; the entire barrel group is just a solid hexagonal block. The Cuban base is also equipped with camouflaged turrets on the ground fitted with twin Miniguns.<br />
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[[Image:GE Minigun.png|thumb|none|400px|An automated Minigun turret in ''GoldenEye 007''. Apparently this weapon doesn't need a barrel rotation motor or any supply of ammunition to do its thing.]]<br />
[[Image:Auto Turret 2 GE.png|thumb|none|400px|The second design of the automated Minigun is only seen in the level "Jungle."]]<br />
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